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AN INVITATION TO THE GENERALIZED SATURATION CONJECTURE

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Let \lambda be a partition, \mu and \eta be compositions such that |\lambda|=|\mu| and ll(\mu)\le |\eta| . Then the coefficient c(\lambda,\mu | \eta) is a homogeneous piecewise linear function of \lambda and \mu. In particular, c(N\lambda, N\mu|\eta) = Nc(\lambda, \mu|\eta) for any positive integer N.

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for Kirillov’s parabolic Kostka polynomial

    Kλμη(q)=wSn(1)(w)KΦ(η)(w(λ+δ)μδq),δ=(n1,,0), n=η,K_{\lambda\mu\eta}(q)=\sum_{w\in S_n}(-1)^{\ell(w)} K_{\Phi(\eta)}(w(\lambda+\delta)-\mu-\delta\mid q), \quad \delta=(n-1,\dots,0),\ n=|\eta|,

    with c(λ,μη)=degqKλμη(q)c(\lambda,\mu\Vert\eta)=\deg_q K_{\lambda\mu\eta}(q) if this polynomial is nonzero and c=0c=0 otherwise, Conjecture 1.3 asserts

    c(Nλ,Nμη)=Nc(λ,μη)c(N\lambda,N\mu\Vert\eta)=N\,c(\lambda,\mu\Vert\eta)

    for all positive integers NN, whenever λ\lambda is a partition, μ,η\mu,\eta are compositions, λ=μ|\lambda|=|\mu|, and ll(μ)ηll(\mu)\le |\eta|.

    Result: The conjecture is false.

    Take

    η=(1,2),λ=(3,3,3),μ=(1,4,4).\eta=(1,2),\qquad \lambda=(3,3,3),\qquad \mu=(1,4,4).

    Then n=3n=3, λ=μ=9|\lambda|=|\mu|=9, and ll(μ)=3η=3ll(\mu)=3\le |\eta|=3.

    For η=(1,2)\eta=(1,2),

    Φ(η)={(1,2),(1,3)},\Phi(\eta)=\{(1,2),(1,3)\},

    so

    KΦ(η)(γq)={qγ1,γ20, γ30, γ1+γ2+γ3=0,0,otherwise.K_{\Phi(\eta)}(\gamma\mid q)= \begin{cases} q^{\gamma_1},& \gamma_2\le0,\ \gamma_3\le0,\ \gamma_1+\gamma_2+\gamma_3=0,\\ 0,&\text{otherwise.} \end{cases}

    Here δ=(2,1,0)\delta=(2,1,0) and λ+δ=(5,4,3)\lambda+\delta=(5,4,3). Summing over the six permutations β=w(λ+δ)\beta=w(\lambda+\delta), with signs, gives

    Kλμη(q)=q2q2q+1=1q.K_{\lambda\mu\eta}(q)=q^2-q^2-q+1=1-q.

    Hence

    c(λ,μη)=1.c(\lambda,\mu\Vert\eta)=1.

    Now scale by N=2N=2:

    2λ=(6,6,6),2μ=(2,8,8),2\lambda=(6,6,6),\qquad 2\mu=(2,8,8),

    and 2λ+δ=(8,7,6)2\lambda+\delta=(8,7,6). The six signed contributions are

    q4q4q3+q3+q2q2=0.q^4-q^4-q^3+q^3+q^2-q^2=0.

    Thus

    K2λ,2μ,η(q)=0,K_{2\lambda,2\mu,\eta}(q)=0,

    so by Kirillov’s convention

    c(2λ,2μη)=0.c(2\lambda,2\mu\Vert\eta)=0.

    Therefore

    c(2λ,2μη)=02=2c(λ,μη),c(2\lambda,2\mu\Vert\eta)=0\ne 2=2c(\lambda,\mu\Vert\eta),

    contradicting the claimed homogeneity. All stated hypotheses are satisfied.

    Citation: Statement and definitions: Anatol N. Kirillov, An Invitation to the Generalized Saturation Conjecture, arXiv:math/0404353, Conjecture 1.3. Counterexample computed above.

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    The counterexample attacks the exact conjecture. With η=(1,2)\eta=(1,2), Φ(η)={(1,2),(1,3)}\Phi(\eta)=\{(1,2),(1,3)\}, so the stated formula for KΦ(η)(γq)K_{\Phi(\eta)}(\gamma\mid q) is correct. Enumerating the six Weyl-group terms gives

    K(3,3,3),(1,4,4),(1,2)(q)=1q,K_{(3,3,3),(1,4,4),(1,2)}(q)=1-q,

    so c=1c=1. After scaling by N=2N=2, the six contributions cancel:

    q4q4q3+q3+q2q2=0,q^4-q^4-q^3+q^3+q^2-q^2=0,

    so Kirillov’s convention gives c=0c=0. Thus

    c(2λ,2μη)=02c(λ,μη).c(2\lambda,2\mu\Vert\eta)=0\ne 2c(\lambda,\mu\Vert\eta).

    All hypotheses are satisfied. I found no prior matching published counterexample in the checked literature.

    Novelty assessment

    TYPE1

    Classification rationale: This appears to be a genuinely new counterexample, but it is a very small direct computation in a specialized setting. It refutes a named conjecture, so it has some archival value, but by itself it is more like an erratum/short note observation than a standalone standard-journal paper.

    Literature check: I found no prior source giving this counterexample or a stronger disproof of Kirillov’s specific homogeneity claim for c(λ,μη)c(\lambda,\mu\|\eta). Searches for the exact conjecture phrase, “homogeneous piecewise linear,” KλμηK_{\lambda\mu\eta}, c(λ,μη)c(\lambda,\mu\|\eta), “parabolic Kostka saturation counterexample/fails,” arXiv records, citation databases, MathOverflow/StackExchange, and code/forum traces led back to Kirillov’s paper or to unrelated saturation failures. Related known counterexamples for Schubert coefficients or log-concavity of related polynomials do not cover this statement.

    Citation: A. N. Kirillov, “An invitation to the generalized saturation conjecture,” Publ. RIMS 40 (2004), 1147–1239; arXiv:math/0404353, Conjecture 1.3.

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