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Geometric variants of Hall's Theorem through Sperner's Lemma

Combinatorics · math.CO · posed by Leonardo Martinez, Luis Montejano · open

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Does there exist a Hall function for the pairwise disjointness relation of the sets of a given family F?

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    Problem: A Hall function for pairwise disjointness would be a finite-valued function h:N→Nh:\mathbb N\to\mathbb N such that for every family F\mathscr F of sets and every finite list of finite subfamilies A1,…,Am⊆F\mathscr A_1,\dots,\mathscr A_m\subseteq\mathscr F, if

    ν(⋃i∈IAi)≥h(∣I∣)\nu\Bigl(\bigcup_{i\in I}\mathscr A_i\Bigr)\ge h(|I|)

    for every nonempty I⊆[m]I\subseteq[m], where ν\nu is the maximum size of a pairwise disjoint subfamily, then one can choose Ai∈AiA_i\in\mathscr A_i so that A1,…,AmA_1,\dots,A_m are pairwise disjoint. This is the natural reconstruction from the paper’s “rainbow set” Hall-type language.

    Result: No such Hall function exists, even for one fixed infinite family of sets.

    Let

    U={(n,i,j):n≥1, 1≤i,j≤n}.U=\{(n,i,j): n\ge1,\ 1\le i,j\le n\}.

    For each nn, define “rows” and “columns”

    Rn,i={(n,i,j):1≤j≤n},Cn,j={(n,i,j):1≤i≤n}.R_{n,i}=\{(n,i,j):1\le j\le n\},\qquad C_{n,j}=\{(n,i,j):1\le i\le n\}.

    Let

    F={Rn,i,Cn,j:n≥1, 1≤i,j≤n}.\mathscr F=\{R_{n,i},C_{n,j}:n\ge1,\ 1\le i,j\le n\}.

    Suppose hh were a Hall function for F\mathscr F. Choose n≥max⁡{h(1),h(2)}n\ge \max\{h(1),h(2)\}. Set

    A1={Rn,1,…,Rn,n},A2={Cn,1,…,Cn,n}.\mathscr A_1=\{R_{n,1},\dots,R_{n,n}\},\qquad \mathscr A_2=\{C_{n,1},\dots,C_{n,n}\}.

    The rows are pairwise disjoint, so ν(A1)=n≥h(1)\nu(\mathscr A_1)=n\ge h(1). The columns are pairwise disjoint, so ν(A2)=n≥h(1)\nu(\mathscr A_2)=n\ge h(1). Also

    ν(A1∪A2)=n≥h(2),\nu(\mathscr A_1\cup\mathscr A_2)=n\ge h(2),

    because all rows form a disjoint subfamily of size nn, while no matching can mix a row and a column since

    Rn,i∩Cn,j={(n,i,j)}≠∅.R_{n,i}\cap C_{n,j}=\{(n,i,j)\}\neq\varnothing.

    Thus all Hall inequalities hold for m=2m=2.

    But there is no disjoint rainbow choice: every possible choice Rn,i∈A1R_{n,i}\in\mathscr A_1 and Cn,j∈A2C_{n,j}\in\mathscr A_2 intersects. Contradiction.

    Therefore the proposed Hall function does not exist.

    Citation: No external theorem is used. The construction is an elementary counterexample to Problem 1.4 of Martinez–Montejano, “Geometric variants of Hall’s Theorem through Sperner’s Lemma,” Electronic Notes in Discrete Mathematics 44 (2013), 127–132.

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    The counterexample attacks the stated Hall-function condition for pairwise disjointness. For any candidate finite-valued hh, choosing n≥max⁡(h(1),h(2))n\ge \max(h(1),h(2)) and taking the two color classes to be the nn rows and nn columns gives

    ν(A1)≥h(1),ν(A2)≥h(1),ν(A1∪A2)≥h(2),\nu(\mathscr A_1)\ge h(1),\quad \nu(\mathscr A_2)\ge h(1),\quad \nu(\mathscr A_1\cup\mathscr A_2)\ge h(2),

    indeed ν(A1∪A2)=n\nu(\mathscr A_1\cup\mathscr A_2)=n. But every row intersects every column, so no disjoint rainbow choice exists. Thus no Hall function exists for this fixed family. I found no existing stronger/same published resolution in the available search.

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    Classification rationale: The accepted resolution is a very short two-color row/column obstruction. Even if not explicitly recorded, it is a routine counterexample to any rank-free Hall-type condition for disjoint representatives, and is not substantial enough for a standalone paper.

    Literature check: I found the original Martinez–Montejano Problem 1.4 and only closely related work, notably Aharoni–Haxell-type Hall theorems for bounded-rank hypergraphs and Dumitrescu–Jiang’s “systems of distant representatives,” which cites the original paper. I did not find an explicit published negative answer to this exact fixed-family Hall-function question. The related literature reinforces that bounded-rank hypotheses are essential, but does not appear to publish this particular fixed infinite row/column counterexample.

    Citation: Problem source: Leonardo Martinez and Luis Montejano, “Geometric variants of Hall’s Theorem through Sperner’s Lemma,” Electronic Notes in Discrete Mathematics 44 (2013), 127–132, Problem 1.4.

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