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Large convexly independent subsets of Minkowski sums

Combinatorics · math.CO · posed by Konrad J. Swanepoel, Pavel Valtr · open

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For some ε>0\varepsilon > 0 the following holds. Let Ai={pi,qi}A_i = \{p_i, q_i\}, i=1,2,3,4i = 1, 2, 3, 4, be four sets of two points each in R3\mathbf{R}^3, such that piqi2<ε\|p_i - q_i\|_2 < \varepsilon. Then the set of midpoints between different AiA_i,

i,j=1,2,3,4,ij12(Ai+Aj),\bigcup_{i,j=1,2,3,4, \atop i \neq j} \frac{1}{2}(A_i + A_j),

is not convexly independent.

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    Problem: Swanepoel--Valtr Conjecture 7 is formalized as follows. A finite set XR3X\subset \mathbb R^3 is convexly independent if every point of XX is an extreme point of convX\operatorname{conv}X. The conjecture asserts that there exists ε>0\varepsilon>0 such that for all four two-point sets Ai={pi,qi}R3A_i=\{p_i,q_i\}\subset\mathbb R^3 with piqi2<ε\|p_i-q_i\|_2<\varepsilon, the set

    1ij412(Ai+Aj)\bigcup_{1\le i\ne j\le 4}\frac12(A_i+A_j)

    is not convexly independent. This is exactly the statement quoted from Conjecture 7; the ordered union is the same as the union over i<ji<j.

    Result: The conjecture is false. In fact, for every ε>0\varepsilon>0 there is such a configuration whose 24 cross-midpoints are convexly independent.

    Let ai0,ai1R3a_i^0,a_i^1\in\mathbb R^3 be

    a10=(367,622,3656),a11=(3322,324,589),a20=(1903,1059,1738),a21=(2016,2953,116),a30=(1195,3505,137),a31=(1834,2483,2229),a40=(950,334,757),a41=(1496,1941,731).\begin{aligned} a_1^0&=(-367,622,-3656),& a_1^1&=(-3322,-324,-589),\\ a_2^0&=(-1903,-1059,1738),& a_2^1&=(2016,-2953,116),\\ a_3^0&=(1195,3505,137),& a_3^1&=(1834,2483,2229),\\ a_4^0&=(-950,-334,757),& a_4^1&=(1496,-1941,-731). \end{aligned}

    For i<ji<j, α,β{0,1}\alpha,\beta\in\{0,1\}, write

    xiα,jβ=aiα+ajβ.x_{i\alpha,j\beta}=a_i^\alpha+a_j^\beta .

    The following table gives, for each xiα,jβx_{i\alpha,j\beta}, an exposing vector uu. The listed positive integer mm is the minimum of the ten scalar products

    u(aiαai1α),u(ajβaj1β),u(aiαakγ),u(ajβakγ),u\cdot(a_i^\alpha-a_i^{1-\alpha}),\quad u\cdot(a_j^\beta-a_j^{1-\beta}),\quad u\cdot(a_i^\alpha-a_k^\gamma),\quad u\cdot(a_j^\beta-a_k^\gamma),

    where k{i,j}k\notin\{i,j\} and γ{0,1}\gamma\in\{0,1\}.

    (iα,jβ)um(10,20)(9,4,10)291(10,21)(4,10,7)189(11,20)(10,10,3)19582(11,21)(5,10,3)4211(10,30)(3,10,10)31265(10,31)(8,10,3)985(11,30)(9,10,0)15971(11,31)(10,10,9)597(10,40)(7,1,10)3849(10,41)(2,0,10)8078(11,40)(10,4,8)1134(11,41)(9,9,10)2037(20,30)(3,10,5)28(20,31)(6,5,10)11081(21,30)(100,13,31)12587(21,31)(10,4,10)15284(20,40)(2,7,10)8523(20,41)(3,10,5)927(21,40)(1,7,10)957(21,41)(10,10,1)41335(30,40)(0,10,3)3679(30,41)(10,6,1)327(31,40)(7,10,6)6805(31,41)(10,10,3)1775\begin{array}{c|c|c} (i\alpha,j\beta)&u&m\\ \hline (10,20)&(-9,-4,-10)&291\\ (10,21)&(-4,-10,-7)&189\\ (11,20)&(-10,-10,3)&19582\\ (11,21)&(-5,-10,-3)&4211\\ (10,30)&(-3,10,-10)&31265\\ (10,31)&(8,10,3)&985\\ (11,30)&(-9,10,0)&15971\\ (11,31)&(-10,10,9)&597\\ (10,40)&(-7,1,-10)&3849\\ (10,41)&(-2,0,-10)&8078\\ (11,40)&(-10,4,-8)&1134\\ (11,41)&(-9,-9,-10)&2037\\ (20,30)&(-3,10,5)&28\\ (20,31)&(-6,5,10)&11081\\ (21,30)&(100,13,-31)&12587\\ (21,31)&(10,-4,10)&15284\\ (20,40)&(-2,-7,10)&8523\\ (20,41)&(-3,-10,5)&927\\ (21,40)&(1,-7,10)&957\\ (21,41)&(10,-10,-1)&41335\\ (30,40)&(0,10,3)&3679\\ (30,41)&(10,6,-1)&327\\ (31,40)&(7,10,6)&6805\\ (31,41)&(10,10,3)&1775 \end{array}

    Because every listed mm is positive, for each xiα,jβx_{i\alpha,j\beta} the corresponding uu strictly separates it from every other xrρ,sσx_{r\rho,s\sigma} with r<sr<s. Hence all 24 points xiα,jβx_{i\alpha,j\beta} are vertices of their convex hull.

    Now let

    D=maxiai0ai12.D=\max_i\|a_i^0-a_i^1\|_2.

    Given any ε>0\varepsilon>0, choose 0<λ<ε/D0<\lambda<\varepsilon/D and set

    Ai={λai0,λai1}.A_i=\{\lambda a_i^0,\lambda a_i^1\}.

    Then λai0λai12<ε\| \lambda a_i^0-\lambda a_i^1\|_2<\varepsilon, while the cross-midpoint set is just the homothetic image by factor λ/2\lambda/2 of the convexly independent set above. Homotheties preserve convex independence. Thus the conjectured ε\varepsilon cannot exist.

    Verification audit: the constructed AiA_i are genuine two-point subsets of R3\mathbb R^3; the union over ordered iji\ne j equals the 24-point union over i<ji<j; each point has an explicit strict exposing functional; scaling makes the within-pair distances arbitrarily small without changing convex independence.

    Citation: No external resolution is used here. The conjecture is from Swanepoel and Valtr, “Large convexly independent subsets of Minkowski sums,” Electron. J. Combin. 17 (2010), R146, Conjecture 7.

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    model says: correctGPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1)

    scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification KNOWN

    PASS

    The claimed disproof attacks the exact conjecture. The exposing-vector certificate is mathematically sufficient: the listed positive minima imply each chosen sum has a strict linear functional separating it from every other cross-sum, so all 24 sums are vertices of their convex hull. Scaling then makes all piqi<ε\|p_i-q_i\|<\varepsilon while preserving convex independence. I found no existing similar/stronger resolution in the available literature searches.

    Novelty assessment

    KNOWN

    Classification rationale: The accepted solution proves existence of a convex embedding of K2,2,2,2K_{2,2,2,2} in R3\mathbb R^3, equivalently a counterexample to Swanepoel–Valtr Conjecture 7 after scaling. This exact statement was already reported in the literature.

    Literature check: A citation search from Swanepoel–Valtr led to Martínez-Sandoval–Padrol, arXiv:1909.01189v3. In the discussion of the d=3,k=2d=3,k=2 case, they state: “Recently, Raggi and Roldán-Pensado found a convex embedding of K2,2,2,2K_{2,2,2,2} into R3\mathbb R^3 using computational methods (personal communication).” This is precisely the same resolution: the four parts of K2,2,2,2K_{2,2,2,2} are the four two-point sets AiA_i, and scaling makes the within-part distances arbitrarily small.

    Citation: Leonardo Martínez-Sandoval and Arnau Padrol, “The convex dimension of hypergraphs and the hypersimplicial Van Kampen-Flores Theorem,” arXiv:1909.01189v3, §1 discussion after Theorem 1.3; citing Miguel Raggi and Edgardo Roldán-Pensado, personal communication, for a convex embedding of K2,2,2,2K_{2,2,2,2} in R3\mathbb R^3.

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