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Longest Alternating Subsequences of Permutations

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In particular, what is the value L_{k,S} = \lim_{n \to \infty} b_{k,S}(n)^{1/n}?

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    Problem: For fixed k≥1k\ge1 and S⊆[k−1]S\subseteq [k-1], let

    Πk,S={v∈Sk:D(v)=S},bk,S(n)=∣{w∈Sn:w avoids every v∈Πk,S}∣.\Pi_{k,S}=\{v\in\mathfrak S_k: D(v)=S\}, \quad b_{k,S}(n)=|\{w\in\mathfrak S_n: w\text{ avoids every }v\in\Pi_{k,S}\}|.

    Equivalently, define the sign word τ=τ1⋯τk−1\tau=\tau_1\cdots \tau_{k-1} by τi=D\tau_i=D if i∈Si\in S, and τi=U\tau_i=U otherwise. Then bk,S(n)b_{k,S}(n) counts permutations with no subsequence whose adjacent comparisons have sign word τ\tau.

    Write τ\tau as maximal constant runs

    τ=σ1a1σ2a2⋯σrar,σi∈{U,D}, σi≠σi+1, ai≥1.\tau=\sigma_1^{a_1}\sigma_2^{a_2}\cdots \sigma_r^{a_r}, \qquad \sigma_i\in\{U,D\},\ \sigma_i\ne\sigma_{i+1},\ a_i\ge1.

    Result:

    Lk,S=lim⁡n→∞bk,S(n)1/n=∑i=1rai2.\boxed{L_{k,S}=\lim_{n\to\infty} b_{k,S}(n)^{1/n} =\sum_{i=1}^r a_i^2.}

    For k=1k=1, the empty sum gives L1,∅=0L_{1,\varnothing}=0.

    Proof sketch. A key splitting lemma says: a sequence avoids τ\tau iff it can be cut into rr consecutive blocks B1,…,BrB_1,\dots,B_r, where BiB_i avoids a monotone subsequence of direction σi\sigma_i and length ai+1a_i+1. This is proved by induction on runs: for τ=σaβ\tau=\sigma^a\beta, with β\beta beginning with the opposite sign, a minimal prefix containing a σa\sigma^a-subsequence either already gives the needed cut or combines with a β\beta-subsequence in the suffix to form τ\tau.

    Thus bk,S(n)b_{k,S}(n) is the speed of the horizontal juxtaposition of the monotone-avoidance classes

    Av⁡(12⋯(ai+1))orAv⁡((ai+1)⋯21),\operatorname{Av}(12\cdots(a_i+1)) \quad\text{or}\quad \operatorname{Av}((a_i+1)\cdots21),

    according to σi=U\sigma_i=U or DD. By Regev’s theorem, each such class has growth constant ai2a_i^2. The growth constant of a horizontal juxtaposition of classes with constants gig_i is ∑igi\sum_i g_i, since for fixed block sizes nin_i the count is

    (nn1,…,nr)∏ici(ni),\binom{n}{n_1,\dots,n_r}\prod_i c_i(n_i),

    whose exponential rate is ∑igi\sum_i g_i. Hence

    Lk,S=∑iai2.L_{k,S}=\sum_i a_i^2.

    This recovers Stanley’s examples: if S=∅S=\varnothing or S=[k−1]S=[k-1], then L=(k−1)2L=(k-1)^2; if τ\tau is alternating, all ai=1a_i=1, so L=k−1L=k-1.

    Citation: Uses Regev’s monotone-pattern growth theorem: A. Regev, “Asymptotic values for degrees associated with strips of Young diagrams,” Adv. Math. 41 (1981), 115–136.

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    model says: correctGPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1)

    scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE2

    PASS

    The claim attacks the correct bk,Sb_{k,S} statement. The splitting lemma is terse but valid: using the earliest endpoint of the first monotone run, either the remaining suffix avoids the rest of the sign word, giving the cut, or the first opposite comparison lets one splice to form the forbidden τ\tau-subsequence. Induction gives the stated juxtaposition.

    The growth-rate step is also sound: multiple cuts give only polynomial overcount, and Regev gives growth ai2a_i^2 for each monotone-avoidance block, so the juxtaposition has growth ∑iai2\sum_i a_i^2. I found no prior stronger result in the available literature search.

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    TYPE2

    Classification rationale: The result gives a clean closed formula for a specific open problem posed by Stanley. The proof is short and uses standard ingredients (Regev’s monotone-pattern growth theorem plus an elementary run-splitting/juxtaposition argument), so it is not a major advance, but it is a complete resolution of a named enumerative-combinatorics problem and could plausibly support a short standalone note in a standard combinatorics journal. Not TYPE3.

    Literature check: I searched for the exact notation and problem statement (bk,S(n)b_{k,S}(n), Lk,SL_{k,S}, Πk,S\Pi_{k,S}), combinations with Stanley’s title, “descent set” pattern avoidance, “sign word” subsequences, and growth constants for these avoidance classes. I also checked citation/search trails around Stanley’s paper, related papers on longest alternating/k-alternating subsequences, Regev-type monotone avoidance, and juxtaposition of permutation classes, plus MathOverflow/StackExchange searches. I found no source giving the formula Lk,S=∑iai2L_{k,S}=\sum_i a_i^2 or an equivalent resolution of Stanley’s Open Problem 3. Related literature treats the alternating case, monotone avoidance, or general permutation-class growth tools, but not this descent-set family’s growth constant.

    Citation: Richard P. Stanley, “Longest alternating subsequences of permutations,” Michigan Math. J. 57 (2008), 675–687; arXiv:math/0511419. Uses A. Regev, “Asymptotic values for degrees associated with strips of Young diagrams,” Adv. Math. 41 (1981), 115–136.

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