Problems in Discrete Geometry Using Satisfiability Solvers
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However, the jury is still out on whether or not any of the 10-point chirotopes are realizable in 3D space.
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Problem: Interpreting the source context, the question is: are any of the SAT-produced uniform rank-, acyclic chirotopes on labeled elements, constructed to have no -element restriction of type , realizable by points in general position in ? Realizable means
for some , with no four coplanar.
Result: None of these -point counterexample chirotopes are realizable.
Indeed, let be any -point set in general position. Choose an extreme point . Central projection from maps the other nine points to a plane . No three projected points are collinear, since otherwise those three points together with would be coplanar.
By the classical Erdős–Szekeres theorem , the nine projected points contain five points in convex position. Let their preimages be . Then the vertex figure at in
is a pentagon. Since the original points are in general position, this six-point polytope is simplicial, has six vertices, and has one vertex of degree . Such a simplicial -polytope is combinatorially the cyclic polytope .
Thus every realizable -point rank- chirotope contains a six-subset. The SAT chirotopes in question were constructed to avoid all such six-subsets, so none can be realizable.
Citation: No exact published resolution of the MEGL list is needed here; the key external input is P. Erdős and G. Szekeres, “A combinatorial problem in geometry,” Compositio Mathematica 2 (1935), 463–470, proving .
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The proof attacks the correct target: those SAT chirotopes are counterexamples with no six-subset. The argument rigorously shows any realizable 10-point configuration in general position in must contain such a subset: project the other nine points from an extreme point, apply , and lift the convex pentagon to six points whose convex hull is combinatorially . Hence the listed chirotopes cannot be realizable.
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Classification rationale: The resolution is mathematically correct but very minor: it is a direct one-paragraph corollary of the classical planar Erdős–Szekeres value , via projection from an extreme point. It introduces no new method and would not support a standalone paper; at most it is a short note/comment resolving the MEGL computational loose end.
Literature check: I found no explicit published resolution of the specific MEGL/SAT “10-point chirotopes” realizability question, nor a clearly indexed exact statement that every 10-point general-position set in contains a six-subset. Searches around the paper title/authors, “10-point chirotope,” “,” “cyclic polytope,” “rank 4 chirotope,” “realizable chirotope,” and Erdős–Szekeres/order-type formulations led only to the original project context and standard Erdős–Szekeres material. The result is therefore best viewed as new only in this narrow sense, but routine.
Citation: P. Erdős and G. Szekeres, “A combinatorial problem in geometry,” Compositio Mathematica 2 (1935), 463–470. See also W. Morris and V. Soltan, “The Erdős–Szekeres problem on points in convex position—a survey,” Bull. Amer. Math. Soc. 37 (2000), 437–458.
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