Robust Radical Sylvester-Gallai Theorem for Quadratics
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Let be parameters, and let be finite sets of irreducible polynomials of degree at most d such that
- for every each from a distinct set , there are polynomials in the remaining set such that . Then the transcendence degree of the union is a function of k, d, c, independent of the number of variables or the size of the sets .
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Problem: Reconstructed literal conjecture: for every there is a bound such that, over a polynomial ring over a field, any finite sets of irreducible polynomials of degree satisfying
and such that for every choice of polynomials from distinct ’s, the remaining set contains with
has .
This is the statement supported by the quoted Conjecture 1.5. The base field and scalar-associate conventions are omitted; the counterexample below works over and does not rely on scalar multiples.
Result: The conjecture as stated is false already for .
For , work in
Let
Each element is irreducible of degree . Also
since no equals any .
Check the radical condition. If the remaining set is , then the chosen three polynomials come from , say . Since and
the condition holds. The same argument works for remaining . If the remaining set is , one of the chosen polynomials comes from , say , and . Similarly for .
Thus the hypotheses hold with . But
which is unbounded as . Therefore no function exists.
The defect is the missing non-overlap condition between color classes. A natural repair would require the ’s to be pairwise disjoint up to scalar associates, or otherwise impose a minimality condition excluding duplicated color classes.
Citation: No external citation is needed; the counterexample is elementary and given above.
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model says: correctGPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1)scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1
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The proposed construction is a valid counterexample to the conjecture as stated. For fixed , the four finite sets satisfy the degree, irreducibility, total-intersection, and radical-containment hypotheses. Yet their union contains the algebraically independent variables , so its transcendence degree is , unbounded. The disproof relies on overlap between color classes, but the supplied conjecture does not forbid that.
Novelty assessment
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Classification rationale: The construction is a very elementary degenerate counterexample exploiting overlap/duplication of color classes. It does not advance the substantive radical Sylvester–Gallai problem; it only shows that the literal extracted statement is missing a non-overlap or minimality hypothesis. This would not support a standalone paper except possibly as an erratum-style observation.
Literature check: I found no reliable evidence that this exact duplicated-color-class counterexample is already recorded in the literature. The relevant papers and surrounding discussions treat the general -Sylvester–Gallai conjecture as open, with known progress only for special cases such as tuples of quadratics/radical SG configurations. Searches for the specific defect, for , and for duplicated/intersecting color-class counterexamples did not turn up a published source.
Citation: No prior citation found for this exact counterexample. Relevant background: Garg, Oliveira, Sengupta, “Radical Sylvester-Gallai Theorem for Tuples of Quadratics,” ECCC TR23-105, 2023.
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