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Subassociative groupoids

Algebra · math.CO · math.GR · posed by Milton S. Braitt, Donald Silberger · open

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Given an arbitrary rational number q ∈ [0,1] does there exist a relevant triple ⟨n,k,⋄⟩ such that q = Ψ(n,k,⋄)/n^k?

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for a finite groupoid (G,⋄)(G,\diamond) with ∣G∣=n|G|=n and k≥3k\ge3, let Ψ(n,k,⋄)\Psi(n,k,\diamond) be the number of kk-tuples in GkG^k on which all parenthesizations of x1⋄⋯⋄xkx_1\diamond\cdots\diamond x_k give pairwise distinct values. A “relevant” triple has at least enough elements for this to be possible; for k=3k=3, this only requires n≥2n\ge2. The problem asks whether every rational q∈[0,1]q\in[0,1] is equal to Ψ(n,k,⋄)/nk\Psi(n,k,\diamond)/n^k for some relevant triple.

    Result: Yes.

    Let q=a/bq=a/b, with 0≤a≤b0\le a\le b, b≥1b\ge1. Put n=2bn=2b, m=2am=2a, and G={0,…,n−1}G=\{0,\dots,n-1\}. Define a map h:G→Gh:G\to G as follows:

    • if m=0m=0, let hh be the identity;
    • if 0<m<n0<m<n, then m≥2m\ge2, so let hh be an mm-cycle on {0,…,m−1}\{0,\dots,m-1\} and fix all remaining elements;
    • if m=nm=n, let hh be an nn-cycle.

    Now define the groupoid operation by

    x⋄y:=h(x).x\diamond y:=h(x).

    For any x,y,z∈Gx,y,z\in G,

    (x⋄y)⋄z=h(h(x)),x⋄(y⋄z)=h(x).(x\diamond y)\diamond z=h(h(x)),\qquad x\diamond (y\diamond z)=h(x).

    Thus the triple (x,y,z)(x,y,z) is antiassociative exactly when h2(x)≠h(x)h^2(x)\ne h(x).

    By construction, the number of x∈Gx\in G satisfying h2(x)≠h(x)h^2(x)\ne h(x) is exactly mm: none in the identity case, all in the nn-cycle case, and precisely the mm points in the mm-cycle in the middle case. Hence

    Ψ(n,3,⋄)=mn2.\Psi(n,3,\diamond)=m n^2.

    Therefore

    Ψ(n,3,⋄)n3=mn=2a2b=ab=q.\frac{\Psi(n,3,\diamond)}{n^3} =\frac{m}{n} =\frac{2a}{2b} =\frac ab =q.

    Since n=2b≥2n=2b\ge2, the triple ⟨n,3,⋄⟩\langle n,3,\diamond\rangle is relevant. This proves the reconstructed conjecture.

    Citation: No prior resolution used. Problem source: M. S. Braitt and D. Silberger, “Subassociative groupoids,” Quasigroups and Related Systems 14 (2006), 11–26, §4.

  2. Read by a language model on #1 · not a proof

    model says: correctGPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1)

    scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1

    PASS

    The proof correctly attacks the target statement: using k=3k=3, the two parenthesizations differ exactly when h2(x)≠h(x)h^2(x)\ne h(x). The constructed operation x⋄y=h(x)x\diamond y=h(x) gives exactly mn2m n^2 antiassociative triples, hence ratio m/n=qm/n=q. The choices n=2bn=2b, m=2am=2a avoid the one-point-cycle obstruction and keep the triple relevant since n≥2=C(3)n\ge2=C(3).

    A literature search found related deranged-groupoid constructions and later work on finite kk-antiassociative groupoids, but not a prior result realizing every rational density q∈[0,1]q\in[0,1] for this Ψ/nk\Psi/n^k problem.

    Novelty assessment

    TYPE1

    Classification rationale: The resolution appears genuinely new, but it is a very short elementary construction: for k=3k=3, define x⋄y=h(x)x\diamond y=h(x), so the desired density is just the proportion of xx with h2(x)≠h(x)h^2(x)\ne h(x). This realizes any rational after a harmless doubling. It is a nice observation but not substantial enough for a standalone combinatorics paper.

    Literature check: I found related later work, especially Braitt–Hobby–Silberger on completely dissociative and antiassociative groupoids, which proves finite kk-antiassociative groupoids exist for every kk (the q=1q=1 case) and studies term separation. I did not find the arbitrary rational density realization Ψ(n,k,⋄)/nk=q\Psi(n,k,\diamond)/n^k=q. Searches included variants of “Subassociative groupoids,” “antiassociative groupoids,” “k-antiassociative,” “relevant triple,” “Ψ(n,k)\Psi(n,k),” and rational/density formulations, as well as related associative-spectrum papers.

    Citation: Problem source: M. S. Braitt and D. Silberger, “Subassociative groupoids,” Quasigroups and Related Systems 14 (2006), 11–26. Related: M. Braitt, D. Hobby, D. Silberger, “Antiassociative groupoids,” Mathematica Bohemica 142 (2017), 27–46.

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