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Topological representations of matroid maps

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Given a finite CW complex XX which is not contractible and two ρ\rho-immersed matroids (M,l)(M, l) and (N,l)(N, l') such that TX(M,l)TX(N,l)\mathcal{T}_X(M, l) \simeq \mathcal{T}_X(N, l'), if there exists a surjective weak map τ:MN\tau: M \to N, then τ#\tau^\# is an isomorphism.

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Candidate 1 of the open problems stated in "Topological representations of matroid maps", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for a finite noncontractible CW complex XX, a common integer ρ\rho, and ρ\rho-immersed matroids (M,l)(M,l), (N,l)(N,l'), if

    TX(M,l)TX(N,l)\mathcal T_X(M,l)\simeq \mathcal T_X(N,l')

    and there is a surjective weak map τ:MN\tau:M\to N, then the induced map of lattices of flats

    τ#:L(M)L(N),FclN(τ(F))\tau^\#:\mathcal L(M)\to \mathcal L(N),\qquad F\mapsto \operatorname{cl}_N(\tau(F))

    is an isomorphism. Here a ρ\rho-immersion is a rank- and order-reversing map L(M)Bρ\mathcal L(M)\to B_\rho. The text does not require τ\tau to be ρ\rho-admissible; the counterexample below is admissible anyway.

    Result: The conjecture is false.

    Let XX be the Poincaré homology 3-sphere with an open 3-ball removed. Then XX is a finite CW complex, is acyclic, and is not contractible: Mayer-Vietoris gives H~(X;Z)=0\widetilde H_*(X;\mathbb Z)=0, while van Kampen gives π1(X)π1\pi_1(X)\cong \pi_1 of the Poincaré sphere, which is nontrivial.

    Since XX is connected and acyclic, both ΣX\Sigma X and XXX*X are simply connected acyclic CW complexes, hence contractible by Whitehead’s theorem.

    Now take ρ=3\rho=3. Let

    M=U2,3M=U_{2,3}

    on E={1,2,3}E=\{1,2,3\}, and let NN be the rank-2 matroid on EE in which 11 and 22 are parallel and 33 is not parallel to them. Thus

    L(M)={,{1},{2},{3},E},\mathcal L(M)=\{\varnothing,\{1\},\{2\},\{3\},E\},

    while

    L(N)={,{1,2},{3},E}.\mathcal L(N)=\{\varnothing,\{1,2\},\{3\},E\}.

    Use the canonical 33-immersions

    l(F)=[3rkM(F)],l(G)=[3rkN(G)].l(F)=[3-\operatorname{rk}_M(F)],\qquad l'(G)=[3-\operatorname{rk}_N(G)].

    For a ρ\rho-immersion of a rank-2 matroid, Engström’s homotopy formula gives

    TX(A,lA)w1(A)X2  w2(A)ΣX.\mathcal T_X(A,l_A)\simeq \bigvee^{w_1(A)} X^{*2}\ \vee\ \bigvee^{w_2(A)} \Sigma X .

    Both X2X^{*2} and ΣX\Sigma X are contractible, so

    TX(M,l)TX(N,l).\mathcal T_X(M,l)\simeq * \simeq \mathcal T_X(N,l').

    The identity map τ:EE\tau:E\to E is a surjective weak map MNM\to N, because

    rkN(S)rkM(S)\operatorname{rk}_N(S)\le \operatorname{rk}_M(S)

    for every SES\subseteq E. But

    τ#({1})=clN({1})={1,2}=clN({2})=τ#({2}),\tau^\#(\{1\})=\operatorname{cl}_N(\{1\})=\{1,2\} =\operatorname{cl}_N(\{2\})=\tau^\#(\{2\}),

    so τ#\tau^\# is not injective and therefore not an isomorphism.

    Thus all hypotheses hold, but the conclusion fails. The defect is that “XX noncontractible” allows acyclic noncontractible complexes; after one XX-suspension, the representation can become contractible and lose all matroid information.

    Citation: Counterexample appears not to be from the literature. It uses Engström/Stamps’ homotopy formula as stated in Matthew T. Stamps, “Topological representations of matroid maps,” J. Algebraic Combin. 37 (2013), 213–237; arXiv:1104.4152.

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      machine: correct

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      The counterexample is mathematically valid. The punctured Poincaré homology sphere is a finite acyclic noncontractible CW complex, so ΣX\Sigma X and XXX*X are contractible. Engström/Stamps’ homotopy formula then makes both rank-2 canonical 33-immersed representations contractible.

      The identity map U2,3NU_{2,3}\to N is a surjective weak map since ranks only decrease, but τ#({1})=τ#({2})={1,2}\tau^\#(\{1\})=\tau^\#(\{2\})=\{1,2\}, so τ#\tau^\# is not injective. Thus all hypotheses hold and the conjectured conclusion fails. I found no evidence that this counterexample is already in the literature.

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      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: The counterexample is valid but quite small and exploits a basic topological loophole: a noncontractible acyclic finite CW complex whose suspension/join becomes contractible. The matroid part is minimal rank-2 bookkeeping. This is best viewed as an erratum-style observation to Stamps’ conjecture, not a standalone substantial combinatorics paper.

      Literature check: I found no evidence that this counterexample or an equivalent disproof is already in the literature. Searches for the paper title with “counterexample,” “erratum,” “Conjecture 3.16,” “rho-immersed matroid,” “tau^# matroid,” and related weak-map/topological-representation phrases led only to the original paper and bibliographic mirrors, with no published resolution. GitHub repository/issue/discussion searches for the exact title and conjecture terms also returned no relevant hits.

      Citation: Matthew T. Stamps, “Topological representations of matroid maps,” Journal of Algebraic Combinatorics 37 (2013), 213–237; DOI 10.1007/s10801-012-0366-0; arXiv:1104.4152.

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