Unified approach to the generalized Turán problem and supersaturation
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Suppose that . Then is attained asymptotically on the quasi-star or the quasi-clique.
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Problem: Reconstructed statement: for fixed integers , where is the path on vertices and
the conjecture asserts that, asymptotically in , this minimum is achieved by either a quasi-clique or a quasi-star. Here denotes the number of unlabelled copies of in .
This is the natural reading from the paper’s definition of and its definitions of quasi-clique/quasi-star.
Result: The conjecture is false. A counterexample occurs already for .
Let
and let . Put
For a complete bipartite graph ,
and
Hence, since ,
while
Thus
Now compare with quasi-stars and quasi-cliques.
A quasi-star differs in at most one exceptional vertex from a split graph
For ,
and
The exceptional vertex contributes only copies of and copies of . Therefore any quasi-star with at least copies of must have , and hence has at least
copies of .
A quasi-clique with clique part of size has at most copies of . Therefore implies
It then contains at least
copies of , which is because .
Consequently every quasi-star or quasi-clique with at least copies of has at least
copies of , while has only
The ratio is asymptotically at most , so the extremum is not asymptotically attained by a quasi-star or quasi-clique.
Thus Conjecture 5.6, under its natural formalization, is false.
Citation: No known published disproof is being invoked. The conjecture and notation are from Gerbner–Nagy–Vizer, “Unified approach to the generalized Turán problem and supersaturation,” arXiv:2008.12093.
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The construction gives a valid counterexample. For , has
With , this gives the required upper bound on . The path counts for quasi-stars and quasi-cliques are correct: any quasi-star meeting this threshold has at least copies of , while any quasi-clique has even more, . Thus neither can asymptotically attain the minimum. I found no existing published disproof or stronger result in the available literature search.
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Classification rationale: The counterexample appears genuinely new and correctly falsifies Conjecture 5.6 already for . However, it is a very short elementary construction based on counting paths in versus quasi-stars/quasi-cliques. It disproves the stated structural conjecture but does not determine the actual extremal value or develop a replacement theory. Borderline as a short note, but on its own I would classify it as minor rather than a standard standalone combinatorics paper.
Literature check: I found no existing disproof or stronger published statement. Searches for the exact notation and phrases (“satex”, “supersaturation-extremal”, “Conjecture 5.6”, “”, “quasi-star quasi-clique paths”, “ ”) and author/title-based searches led back to the original arXiv paper or unrelated generalized Turán/path-count literature. I did not find an erratum, later version removing the conjecture, cited paper, note, or forum post containing this counterexample.
Citation: D. Gerbner, Z. L. Nagy, M. Vizer, “Unified approach to the generalized Turán problem and supersaturation,” arXiv:2008.12093, Conjecture 5.6.
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