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Canonical versions of van der Waerden and Szemerédi type recurrence (conjectures and implications)

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Let X be a compact Hausdorff space and T:XXT:X \to X a continuous map. For any open UXU \subseteq X and any N\ell \in\mathbb{N} , there exists nNn \in\mathbb{N} with

UTnUT2nUTnU,or(3)U \cap T^{-n}U \cap T^{-2n}U \cap\cdots \cap T^{-\ell n}U \neq\emptyset,\text{or}\quad(3)

TinUTjnU=0i<j.(4)T^{-in}U \cap T^{-jn}U=\emptyset \forall0 \leq i<j \leq\ell.\quad(4)

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    Problem: Reconstructed conjecture, with N={1,2,}\mathbb N=\{1,2,\dots\}: for every compact Hausdorff space XX, continuous T:XXT:X\to X, open UXU\subseteq X, and 1\ell\ge1, there is n1n\ge1 such that either

    i=0TinU,\bigcap_{i=0}^{\ell}T^{-in}U\ne\varnothing,

    or the sets TinUT^{-in}U, 0i0\le i\le \ell, are pairwise disjoint. Here TkU={x:TkxU}T^{-k}U=\{x:T^k x\in U\}.

    If 0N0\in\mathbb N, the statement is trivial for nonempty UU by taking n=0n=0, so the recurrence interpretation requires positive nn.

    Result: The conjecture is false, already for =2\ell=2, with XX a compact metric subshift and TT a homeomorphism.

    First construct a set ANA\subseteq\mathbb N such that:

    1. AA contains no nontrivial three-term arithmetic progression;
    2. for every d1d\ge1, there is aAa\in A with a+dAa+d\in A.

    Construction: build finite AP-free sets SmS_m. Given finite AP-free SS and d1d\ge1, only finitely many xZx\in\mathbb Z make S{x,x+d}S\cup\{x,x+d\} contain a three-term AP: any new AP must contain xx or x+dx+d; if it contains one new point, that point is determined by two old points; if it contains both, the old point must be one of xd,x+d/2,x+2dx-d,x+d/2,x+2d. Hence choose xdx_d large outside this finite bad set and set

    Sd=Sd1{xd,xd+d}.S_d=S_{d-1}\cup\{x_d,x_d+d\}.

    Then SdS_d remains AP-free and contains a pair of difference dd. Let

    A=d1Sd.A=\bigcup_{d\ge1}S_d.

    Any three-term AP in AA would already occur in some finite SdS_d, contradiction. Also every d1d\ge1 occurs as a difference in AA.

    Now let y{0,1}Zy\in\{0,1\}^{\mathbb Z} be the indicator of AA, let σ\sigma be the shift (σz)k=zk+1(\sigma z)_k=z_{k+1}, and set

    X={σry:rZ}.X=\overline{\{\sigma^r y:r\in\mathbb Z\}}.

    Then XX is compact Hausdorff, σX\sigma|_X is continuous, and

    U={zX:z0=1}U=\{z\in X:z_0=1\}

    is clopen.

    For every n1n\ge1, since nAAn\in A-A, choose a,a+nAa,a+n\in A. Then σayUσnU\sigma^a y\in U\cap \sigma^{-n}U. Hence U,σnU,σ2nUU,\sigma^{-n}U,\sigma^{-2n}U are not pairwise disjoint, so alternative (4) fails for every nn.

    On the other hand, if

    UσnUσ2nU,U\cap\sigma^{-n}U\cap\sigma^{-2n}U\ne\varnothing,

    then some zXz\in X has z0=zn=z2n=1z_0=z_n=z_{2n}=1. Since this is a clopen cylinder condition and XX is the orbit closure of yy, some shift σry\sigma^r y also has ones at coordinates 0,n,2n0,n,2n. Thus

    r, r+n, r+2nA,r,\ r+n,\ r+2n\in A,

    a forbidden three-term AP. Hence alternative (3) fails for every nn.

    Therefore no positive nn satisfies either alternative for =2\ell=2. This disproves the conjecture.

    Citation: No external citation is used; the counterexample is self-contained.

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      machine: correct

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      scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1

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      For positive nn, the counterexample is rigorous. The constructed ANA\subseteq\mathbb N is 3-AP-free and has every positive integer as a difference. In the orbit-closure subshift of its indicator, the cylinder U={z:z0=1}U=\{z:z_0=1\} is clopen. Every nn gives a nonempty pairwise intersection, so alternative (4) fails; while any triple intersection would force an actual 3-term AP in AA, so alternative (3) fails. Thus the conjecture is disproved already for =2\ell=2.

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      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: The counterexample is valid but very elementary: it reduces the dynamical conjecture to the standard idea of a 3-term-AP-free set whose difference set contains every positive integer, then applies the routine subshift/cylinder encoding. This is a useful correction to the conjecture, but it is too short and folklore-adjacent to support a standalone journal paper.

      Literature check: I found no source explicitly recording this topological-dynamical counterexample or stating that Farhangi’s canonical recurrence conjecture is false. Searches for the exact title/formulation, “canonical Szemerédi,” “canonical van der Waerden recurrence,” “3-AP-free difference basis,” and related subshift-return-time variants led only to standard ingredients. In particular, the ternary Stanley sequence already gives a classical 3-AP-free set with full difference set via balanced ternary, which essentially implies the same counterexample immediately.

      Citation: No direct prior citation for the exact counterexample found. Relevant standard ingredients: OEIS A005836; A. M. Odlyzko and R. P. Stanley, “Some curious sequences constructed with the greedy algorithm” (1978); D. E. Knuth, The Art of Computer Programming, Vol. 2, on balanced ternary.

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