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Canonical versions of van der Waerden and Szemerédi type recurrence (conjectures and implications)

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For any N\ell \in\mathbb{N} and any (not necessarily finite) partition N=i=1Ci\mathbb{N}=\cup_{i=1}^{\infty}C_{i} , there exists dNd \in\mathbb{N} such that either

(i) for some i0Ni_{0}\in\mathbb{N} we have Ci0(Ci0d)(Ci02d)(Ci0d)C_{i_{0}}\cap(C_{i_{0}}-d)\cap(C_{i_{0}}-2d)\cap\cdots \cap(C_{i_{0}}-\ell d)≠\emptyset , or

(ii) for every iNi \in\mathbb{N} we have (Cijd)(Cikd)=(C_{i}-jd)\cap(C_{i}-kd)=\emptyset for all 0j<k0≤j<k≤\ell .

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Candidate 3 of the open problems stated in "Canonical versions of van der Waerden and Szemerédi type recurrence (conjectures and implications)", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for every N\ell\in\mathbb N and every countable partition N=i=1Ci\mathbb N=\bigcup_{i=1}^\infty C_i, there is dNd\in\mathbb N such that either

    1. some cell Ci0C_{i_0} contains an arithmetic progression
    a,a+d,,a+d,a,a+d,\dots,a+\ell d,

    or

    1. every arithmetic progression a,a+d,,a+da,a+d,\dots,a+\ell d is rainbow, equivalently for every ii and every 0j<k0\le j<k\le \ell,
    (Cijd)(Cikd)=.(C_i-jd)\cap(C_i-kd)=\varnothing.

    Here At={n:n+tA}A-t=\{n:n+t\in A\}. This is exactly the statement in the supplied conjecture.

    Result: The conjecture is false for every 2\ell\ge 2.

    Construct a countable partition of N\mathbb N as follows. For each d1d\ge1, set

    Pd={2d+1,2d+1+d}.P_d=\{2^{d+1},\,2^{d+1}+d\}.

    These pairs are pairwise disjoint: if d<ed<e, then

    2d+1+d<2e+1,2^{d+1}+d<2^{e+1},

    so PdP_d lies entirely before the first element of PeP_e. Now let the partition consist of all pairs PdP_d, together with singleton sets for every remaining natural number.

    Every cell has size at most 22. Hence for any 2\ell\ge2, no cell contains an arithmetic progression of length +13\ell+1\ge3. Thus alternative (i) fails for every dd.

    On the other hand, for each d1d\ge1, the cell PdP_d contains two elements differing by exactly dd:

    2d+1,2d+1+d.2^{d+1},\quad 2^{d+1}+d.

    Therefore

    Pd(Pdd),P_d\cap(P_d-d)\neq\varnothing,

    so alternative (ii) fails for this same dd, already with j=0,k=1j=0,k=1.

    Thus for every dNd\in\mathbb N, neither (i) nor (ii) holds. This disproves the conjecture.

    The failure is caused by allowing arbitrary infinite partitions with very small cells. A natural repair would need some largeness assumption on the cells, or else restrict to finite partitions; under finite partitions, ordinary van der Waerden already gives alternative (i).

    Citation: No external citation is needed; the counterexample above is elementary.

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      machine: correct

      Recorded from GPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1) ·

      scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1

      PASS

      The proposed construction is a valid countable partition. For any 2\ell\ge2, all cells have size at most 22, so no cell contains a monochromatic (+1)(\ell+1)-term arithmetic progression. For each positive dd, the pair Pd={2d+1,2d+1+d}P_d=\{2^{d+1},2^{d+1}+d\} is a same-cell pair at distance dd, so the rainbow alternative fails for that dd. Hence for =2\ell=2 already, no dd satisfies either alternative, disproving the universal conjecture.

      Novelty assessment

      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: The accepted resolution is a very short elementary counterexample: choose disjoint same-color pairs realizing every possible gap, with all color classes of size at most 2. This immediately kills the monochromatic progression alternative for 2\ell\ge2 while killing the rainbow-difference alternative for every dd. Even if not previously recorded, it is too simple for a standalone combinatorics paper; at most it would be a brief correction/remark.

      Literature check: I found no clear prior source explicitly recording this counterexample or an erratum to the stated conjecture. Searches for the title, exact recurrence formulation, “canonical van der Waerden” with infinite/countable partitions, and variants involving rainbow arithmetic progressions did not reveal a known stronger published theorem or counterexample. The construction is nevertheless an immediate matching/pairing observation rather than a substantial new result.

      Citation: No prior citation found for the exact counterexample; classify as new but minor.

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