Combinatorics and Algebra of Geometric Subdivision Operations
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Give a bound R depending on some invariants of the simplicial complex such that for r ≥R the polynomial has only real roots.
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Candidate 4 of the open problems stated in "Combinatorics and Algebra of Geometric Subdivision Operations", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.
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Problem: For a finite abstract simplicial complex of dimension , let be the -fold barycentric subdivision and define
The reconstructed problem is: give an explicit computable integer , depending on standard invariants of , such that for every integer , has only real zeros. Constant polynomials are regarded as vacuously real-rooted.
Result: The full -vector gives such a bound.
Let , with . For , take , since the -polynomial has degree at most .
Assume . Define the barycentric subdivision matrix by
where is a Stirling number of the second kind. Thus
Let be the -transform matrix
For , let be the eigenvector of with eigenvalue , supported in coordinates , normalized by . Let , and set
Write
Since and has zero -coordinate for , one has . Hence
By Brenti–Welker, has degree and has simple real roots. Let these roots be
Choose
with the inner minimum omitted if . Put , , and define
Finally set
where is the maximum absolute value of a coefficient of , and take
Equivalently, if ,
and otherwise .
For ,
Therefore at each pair , the normalized polynomial has the same signs as . Since and have opposite signs, the intermediate value theorem gives one real zero in each interval . Thus there are distinct real zeros. The polynomial has degree at most , so any remaining factor has degree at most , hence also has only real zeros. Multiplication by does not change zeros. Therefore is real-rooted for all .
This bound depends only on the -vector of and on universal constants determined by .
Citation: The subdivision matrix and the fact that the dominant eigenpolynomial has simple real roots are from F. Brenti and V. Welker, “-vectors of barycentric subdivisions,” Math. Z. 259 (2008), 849–865. The explicit bound above is obtained by making their spectral convergence quantitative.
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machine: correctscope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification KNOWN
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The proof attacks the correct statement and gives an explicit computable from the -vector. The spectral decomposition of the barycentric subdivision matrix yields quantitative coefficient convergence to the dominant Brenti–Welker eigenpolynomial , whose roots are known to be simple and real. The perturbation/sign-change argument then guarantees real roots, and since the -polynomial has degree at most , the remaining factor has degree at most one. No fatal gap is apparent.
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Classification rationale: Brenti–Welker already prove a stronger asymptotic root-location statement for the -polynomial of iterated barycentric subdivisions. Their result implies eventual real-rootedness: the finite limiting roots are distinct real roots, so nearby roots of the real-coefficient polynomials are real for all sufficiently large subdivision orders, and any remaining root is real as well. The proposed solution is essentially a quantitative epsilon-delta extraction of this known convergence theorem.
Literature check: Searches of Springer, arXiv, Crossref/OpenAlex metadata, and later works citing Mohammadi–Welker found no separate later paper giving the explicit displayed threshold. However, searches for “n-th iterated subdivision” and “h-polynomial” identify Brenti–Welker’s 2008 paper, whose abstract states that for a general -dimensional complex, one zero tends to infinity and the other zeros tend to real numbers depending only on . This is a similar/stronger known statement than the accepted resolution’s eventual real-rootedness claim.
Citation: F. Brenti and V. Welker, “-Vectors of barycentric subdivisions,” Math. Z. 259 (2008), 849–865, DOI: 10.1007/s00209-007-0251-z; arXiv:math/0606356.
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