GEOMETRY, COMBINATORICS, AND ALGEBRA OF INDUCTIVELY PIERCED CODES
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For each , there exists a term order such that a code is 0- or 1-inductively pierced if and only if the reduced Gröbner basis contains binomials of degree 2 or less.
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Candidate 2 of the open problems stated in "GEOMETRY, COMBINATORICS, AND ALGEBRA OF INDUCTIVELY PIERCED CODES", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.
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Problem: Reconstructed statement: for each , there is a term order on the neural toric ideal variables such that a neural code is - or -inductively pierced iff the reduced Gröbner basis of its toric ideal has only binomials of degree . This uses the standard toric ideal
The word “only” is forced by the surrounding proposition in Gross--Obatake--Youngs.
Result: The statement is false already for .
Let
i.e. the nonzero supports are
This code is not - or -inductively pierced. Indeed,
No has size , so there is no -piercing. For a -piercing, the two zones containing the pierced label must be nested after deleting that label; equivalently they must have the form and . But each displayed pair is incomparable. Hence there is no initial - or -piercing, so is not -inductively pierced.
Now compute the toric ideal. Write
Then
The only integer relation among the exponent vectors is
so
Thus for every term order, the reduced Gröbner basis is the single quadratic binomial or . Therefore the reduced Gröbner basis has degree for every term order, while is not - or -inductively pierced.
So no term order for can make the proposed equivalence true.
Citation: Counterexample given here. Definitions and conjecture: Gross, Obatake, Youngs, “Neural ideals and stimulus space visualization,” arXiv:1607.00697, Conjecture 4.9.
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machine: correctscope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1
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The counterexample is valid for the conjecture as stated. For
, each label appears in two incomparable supports, so no label is an initial - or -piercing; hence the code is not - or -inductively pierced.Its toric ideal has columns with the single primitive relation
so . Therefore every reduced Gröbner basis is a single quadratic binomial, for every term order. This contradicts the proposed iff statement for .
A literature check found related work on inductively pierced codes and toric ideals, but no prior occurrence of this specific stronger counterexample. Note: if an unstated “well-formed code” restriction were intended, this example would need rechecking, but that restriction is not in the supplied conjecture.
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TYPE1
Classification rationale: New as far as I could find, but minor. The counterexample is a very small code whose toric ideal is just the standard principal quadratic relation for a 4-cycle, while the code has no initial 0- or 1-piercing. This is an elementary observation and likely only suitable as a short remark/erratum, not a standalone paper.
Literature check: I found the original conjecture in Gross–Obatake–Youngs, where they also note that quadratic generation alone is not sufficient, but they do not give this Gröbner-basis counterexample. Lienkaemper’s later paper quotes the conjecture and discusses related quadratic Gröbner-basis conjectures, including noting a flawed earlier proof, but does not resolve or refute Conjecture 4.9. I found no open-access paper, update, or note containing this specific counterexample or an equivalent stronger disproof.
Citation: Original conjecture: Elizabeth Gross, Nida Kazi Obatake, Nora Youngs, “Neural ideals and stimulus space visualization,” arXiv:1607.00697, Conjecture 4.9. Related follow-up: Caitlin Lienkaemper, “Geometry, combinatorics, and algebra of inductively pierced codes,” arXiv:1811.04712.
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