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GEOMETRY, COMBINATORICS, AND ALGEBRA OF INDUCTIVELY PIERCED CODES

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geometry-combinatorics-and-algebra-of-inductively-pierced-codes-2Commutative Algebramath.ACmath.COposed by Caitlin Lienkaemperrecorded: open · 1 machine check, unexamined

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For each nn, there exists a term order such that a code is 0- or 1-inductively pierced if and only if the reduced Gröbner basis contains binomials of degree 2 or less.

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Candidate 2 of the open problems stated in "GEOMETRY, COMBINATORICS, AND ALGEBRA OF INDUCTIVELY PIERCED CODES", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for each nn, there is a term order on the neural toric ideal variables such that a neural code C{0,1}n\mathcal C\subseteq\{0,1\}^n is 00- or 11-inductively pierced iff the reduced Gröbner basis of its toric ideal ICI_{\mathcal C} has only binomials of degree 2\le 2. This uses the standard toric ideal

    IC=ker(K[pc:cC{0}]K[x1,,xn]),pcisupp(c)xi.I_{\mathcal C}=\ker\Big(K[p_c:c\in\mathcal C\setminus\{0\}]\to K[x_1,\dots,x_n]\Big),\qquad p_c\mapsto \prod_{i\in \operatorname{supp}(c)}x_i .

    The word “only” is forced by the surrounding proposition in Gross--Obatake--Youngs.

    Result: The statement is false already for n=4n=4.

    Let

    C={0000,1100,1010,0101,0011},\mathcal C=\{0000,1100,1010,0101,0011\},

    i.e. the nonzero supports are

    12, 13, 24, 34.12,\ 13,\ 24,\ 34.

    This code is not 00- or 11-inductively pierced. Indeed,

    X1={12,13},X2={12,24},X3={13,34},X4={24,34}.X_1=\{12,13\},\quad X_2=\{12,24\},\quad X_3=\{13,34\},\quad X_4=\{24,34\}.

    No XiX_i has size 11, so there is no 00-piercing. For a 11-piercing, the two zones containing the pierced label must be nested after deleting that label; equivalently they must have the form Z{i}Z\cup\{i\} and Z{i,j}Z\cup\{i,j\}. But each displayed pair is incomparable. Hence there is no initial 00- or 11-piercing, so C\mathcal C is not 11-inductively pierced.

    Now compute the toric ideal. Write

    a=p12,b=p13,c=p24,d=p34.a=p_{12},\quad b=p_{13},\quad c=p_{24},\quad d=p_{34}.

    Then

    ax1x2,bx1x3,cx2x4,dx3x4.a\mapsto x_1x_2,\quad b\mapsto x_1x_3,\quad c\mapsto x_2x_4,\quad d\mapsto x_3x_4.

    The only integer relation among the exponent vectors is

    (1,1,0,0)+(0,0,1,1)=(1,0,1,0)+(0,1,0,1),(1,1,0,0)+(0,0,1,1)=(1,0,1,0)+(0,1,0,1),

    so

    IC=adbc.I_{\mathcal C}=\langle ad-bc\rangle.

    Thus for every term order, the reduced Gröbner basis is the single quadratic binomial adbcad-bc or bcadbc-ad. Therefore the reduced Gröbner basis has degree 2\le 2 for every term order, while C\mathcal C is not 00- or 11-inductively pierced.

    So no term order for n=4n=4 can make the proposed equivalence true.

    Citation: Counterexample given here. Definitions and conjecture: Gross, Obatake, Youngs, “Neural ideals and stimulus space visualization,” arXiv:1607.00697, Conjecture 4.9.

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      machine: correct

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      scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1

      PASS

      The counterexample is valid for the conjecture as stated. For
      C={0000,1100,1010,0101,0011}\mathcal C=\{0000,1100,1010,0101,0011\}, each label appears in two incomparable supports, so no label is an initial 00- or 11-piercing; hence the code is not 00- or 11-inductively pierced.

      Its toric ideal has columns 12,13,24,3412,13,24,34 with the single primitive relation

      v12+v34=v13+v24,v_{12}+v_{34}=v_{13}+v_{24},

      so IC=p12p34p13p24I_{\mathcal C}=\langle p_{12}p_{34}-p_{13}p_{24}\rangle. Therefore every reduced Gröbner basis is a single quadratic binomial, for every term order. This contradicts the proposed iff statement for n=4n=4.

      A literature check found related work on inductively pierced codes and toric ideals, but no prior occurrence of this specific stronger counterexample. Note: if an unstated “well-formed code” restriction were intended, this example would need rechecking, but that restriction is not in the supplied conjecture.

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      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: New as far as I could find, but minor. The counterexample is a very small n=4n=4 code whose toric ideal is just the standard principal quadratic relation for a 4-cycle, while the code has no initial 0- or 1-piercing. This is an elementary observation and likely only suitable as a short remark/erratum, not a standalone paper.

      Literature check: I found the original conjecture in Gross–Obatake–Youngs, where they also note that quadratic generation alone is not sufficient, but they do not give this Gröbner-basis counterexample. Lienkaemper’s later paper quotes the conjecture and discusses related quadratic Gröbner-basis conjectures, including noting a flawed earlier proof, but does not resolve or refute Conjecture 4.9. I found no open-access paper, update, or note containing this specific counterexample or an equivalent stronger disproof.

      Citation: Original conjecture: Elizabeth Gross, Nida Kazi Obatake, Nora Youngs, “Neural ideals and stimulus space visualization,” arXiv:1607.00697, Conjecture 4.9. Related follow-up: Caitlin Lienkaemper, “Geometry, combinatorics, and algebra of inductively pierced codes,” arXiv:1811.04712.

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