Hypergraph Turán Problems in ℓ_2-Norm
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Problem: Reconstructed conjecture: in the category of finite simple 3-uniform hypergraphs, let
i.e. one vertex whose link contains a . For a 3-graph , let
and
where is the maximum of over all -free -vertex 3-graphs. The conjecture is
This reconstruction is supported by the paper’s definitions of and by its table definition of .
Result: The conjecture is false. In fact,
Proof. Let be the complement of the Fano plane on vertex set . Thus contains exactly those triples which are not Fano lines. Since every pair of vertices lies in exactly one Fano line, every pair in has codegree .
Also is -free: for any vertex , the three Fano lines through remove a perfect matching from , so the link graph is minus a perfect matching, whose clique number is . Hence no link contains a .
Now define recursively for . Partition into seven equal classes , each inducing a copy of . Add all cross triples with one vertex in each of whenever , and no triples with exactly two vertices in one top-level class.
We claim is -free. Indeed, in any copy of , if two vertices have the same top-level class but not all five do, then some edge of would have top-level pattern , impossible in . Hence a copy is either entirely inside one class, contradicting induction, or projects injectively to a copy of in , impossible. Thus every is -free.
Let
Pairs inside a top-level class contribute . Pairs in two distinct top-level classes have codegree , and there are such pairs, contributing
Therefore
so
Consequently, along ,
Since is -free,
Finally,
so .
Verification audit: the denominator used is exactly ; the forbidden hypergraph is exactly the paper’s ; the construction is -free; and the obtained lower bound strictly exceeds the conjectured value.
Citation: The conjecture and definitions are from Balogh–Clemen–Lidický, “Hypergraph Turán Problems in -Norm,” arXiv:2108.10406, Conjecture 3.4. No existing cited source there gives this disproof.
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The disproof is mathematically valid. The complement of the Fano plane is -free, the recursive/iterated blow-up remains -free, and the codegree-squared recurrence is correctly
so and the normalized density tends to . Thus the stated conjecture is false.
The original paper itself mentions this same iterated blow-up but appears to use the wrong geometric factor rather than ; I found no published statement of the corrected strict lower bound.
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Classification rationale: The result appears new as a stated correction, but it is very minor: it uses exactly the iterated blow-up of the complement of the Fano plane already given in Balogh–Clemen–Lidický for , and only corrects the scaling factor in its codegree-squared recurrence. It does falsify Conjecture 3.4, but by a tiny numerical margin and without determining or adding a new method. This is best viewed as an erratum/arXiv update or a small observation inside a broader paper, not a standalone journal paper.
Literature check: I found no source stating the corrected bound or explicitly noting that Conjecture 3.4 is false. The current arXiv version of Balogh–Clemen–Lidický still states the iterated Fano-complement blow-up has
and concludes , followed by Conjecture 3.4, . Searches through arXiv’s “codegree squared” literature, including later papers by Brooks–Linz and others, and searches for , daisy, Fano-complement blow-up, , and related phrases did not reveal the corrected strict lower bound. Related daisy/Turán-density literature contains the construction but not this -norm correction.
Citation: Balogh, Clemen, Lidický, “Hypergraph Turán Problems in -Norm,” arXiv:2108.10406, Section 3.15, Conjecture 3.4. Related construction background: Bollobás, Leader, Malvenuto, “Daisies and other Turán problems,” Combin. Probab. Comput. 20 (2011), 743–747.
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