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inductive-and-divisional-posets-2Representation Theorymath.COmath.RTposed by Roberto Pagaria, Maddalena Pismataro, Tan Nhat Tran, Lorenzo Vecchirecorded: open · 1 machine check, unexamined

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It remains unknown to us whether or not there exists a divisional but not inductive poset among non-lattice, locally geometric posets.

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Candidate 2 of the open problems stated in "Inductive and Divisional Posets", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: The question asks whether there exists a finite ranked poset PP with unique minimum 0^\hat0, locally geometric in the sense that every interval PxP_{\le x} is a geometric lattice, which is not a lattice, and such that PP is divisional but not inductive under Definitions 3.6–3.7 of Pagaria–Pismataro–Tran–Vecchi.

    Result: Yes. Let GG be the graph with vertices {0,1,2,3,4,5}\{0,1,2,3,4,5\} and edges

    01,05,12,13,14,23,24,34.01,05,12,13,14,23,24,34 .

    Let PP be the face poset of this graph:

    P={}{{i}:0i5}{{i,j}:ijE(G)},P=\{\varnothing\}\cup \{\{i\}:0\le i\le 5\}\cup \{\{i,j\}:ij\in E(G)\},

    ordered by inclusion.

    Each principal ideal below a vertex is a chain, and each principal ideal below an edge is the Boolean lattice B2B_2. Hence PP is locally geometric. It is not a lattice, since, for example, the atoms {0}\{0\} and {2}\{2\} have no common upper bound.

    For a graph face poset of rank 22 with nn vertices and mm edges,

    χP(t)=t2nt+m.\chi_P(t)=t^2-nt+m.

    Here n=6,m=8n=6,m=8, so

    χP(t)=t26t+8=(t2)(t4).\chi_P(t)=t^2-6t+8=(t-2)(t-4).

    Take the atom a={0}a=\{0\}. The restriction P=PaP''=P_{\ge a} is a rank-one poset with two atoms, so

    χP(t)=t2,\chi_{P''}(t)=t-2,

    which divides χP(t)\chi_P(t). Since every rank-one poset is divisional, PP is divisional.

    We show PP is not inductive. The vertex degrees are

    d(0)=2,d(1)=4,d(2)=d(3)=d(4)=3,d(5)=1.d(0)=2,\quad d(1)=4,\quad d(2)=d(3)=d(4)=3,\quad d(5)=1.

    For an atom vv, χPv(t)=td(v)\chi_{P_{\ge v}}(t)=t-d(v), while deletion gives the induced graph GvG-v. Directly:

    • for v=2,3,4v=2,3,4, χP(3)=3253+5=1\chi_{P'}(3)=3^2-5\cdot3+5=-1, so t3χPt-3\nmid \chi_{P'};
    • for v=5v=5, χP(1)=15+7=3\chi_{P'}(1)=1-5+7=3, so t1χPt-1\nmid \chi_{P'}.

    Thus only v=0v=0 or v=1v=1 could possibly be an inductive deletion atom.

    If v=0v=0, then GvG-v is K4K_4 plus one isolated vertex. This poset is not inductive: deleting the isolated vertex leaves K4K_4, which is not inductive, and deleting any K4K_4-vertex leaves K3K_3 plus an isolated vertex, also not inductive.

    If v=1v=1, then GvG-v is a triangle K3K_3 disjoint union an edge. This is not inductive: deleting an endpoint of the isolated edge leaves K3K_3 plus an isolated vertex, not inductive; deleting a triangle vertex gives divisibility failure.

    Finally, K3K_3 is not inductive because for each vertex the restriction has characteristic t2t-2, while the deletion has characteristic (t1)2(t-1)^2, not divisible by t2t-2. Similarly, K4K_4 is not inductive since each deletion is K3K_3 with characteristic t23t+3t^2-3t+3, not divisible by t3t-3.

    Therefore PDPIPP\in \mathrm{DP}\setminus \mathrm{IP}, and PP is a non-lattice locally geometric poset.

    Citation: Definitions and the open question are from Pagaria, Pismataro, Tran, and Vecchi, “Inductive and divisional posets,” J. London Math. Soc. 109 (2024), DOI: 10.1112/jlms.12829. The counterexample above is not cited there.

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      machine: correct

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      The counterexample attacks the exact non-lattice locally geometric poset question. The graph face poset is locally geometric, non-lattice, and has χP(t)=t26t+8=(t2)(t4)\chi_P(t)=t^2-6t+8=(t-2)(t-4). The restriction above vertex 00 has characteristic polynomial t2t-2, giving a valid divisional chain.

      The non-inductiveness check is also correct: all possible first atoms either fail the divisibility condition or leave a smaller non-inductive graph-poset. The one compressed subclaim, that K3K_3 plus an isolated vertex is non-inductive, is verified by checking the isolated vertex leaves K3K_3, while any triangle vertex gives divisibility failure. I found no prior literature resolving this specific non-lattice example.

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      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: Genuinely new as far as I can determine, but minor. The result is a small rank-2 counterexample verified by direct calculation from the definitions; it resolves a recent author-posed question but uses no new technique and is likely too short/routine for a standalone standard combinatorics paper without added classification or context.

      Literature check: I found no prior resolution of the specific question. Searches for “divisional but not inductive”, “locally geometric posets” with “divisional/inductive/non-lattice”, “Inductive and divisional posets” plus “counterexample”, and related rank-2/graph face-poset terminology returned only the original Pagaria–Pismataro–Tran–Vecchi paper and unrelated works. OpenAlex cited-by data showed only an unrelated 2026 paper citing the original. I also found no relevant GitHub/issue/forum occurrence of the key phrases.

      Citation: Roberto Pagaria, Maddalena Pismataro, Tan Nhat Tran, Lorenzo Vecchi, “Inductive and divisional posets,” J. London Math. Soc. 109 (2024), DOI: 10.1112/jlms.12829.

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