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Isoperimetric stability in lattices

Combinatorics · math.CO · posed by Ben Barber, Joshua Erde, Peter Keevash, Alexander Roberts · open

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We conjecture that any such A can be covered by O(1) homothetic copies of C(B) with total volume O(|A|).

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Candidate 3 of the open problems stated in "Isoperimetric stability in lattices", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: Reconstructed conjecture: for fixed finite generating BZdB\subset \mathbb Z^d, if a large finite set AZdA\subset\mathbb Z^d has vertex expansion

    A+BA|A+B|-|A|

    within a constant factor of the minimum possible for sets of size A|A|, then AA can be covered by O(1)O(1) homothetic copies of

    C(B)=conv(B{0})C(B)=\operatorname{conv}(B\cup\{0\})

    whose total Lebesgue volume is O(A)O(|A|). The constants may depend on B,dB,d, and the boundary-factor, but not on AA.

    This is the natural reading of the concluding sentence, since immediately before it the paper says “large sets AA for which A+BA|A+B|-|A| is within a multiplicative O(1)O(1) factor of its minimum value.”

    Result: The conjecture is false.

    Take d=2d=2 and

    B={0,e1,e2}Z2.B=\{0,e_1,e_2\}\subset\mathbb Z^2.

    Then C(B)=conv{(0,0),(1,0),(0,1)}C(B)=\operatorname{conv}\{(0,0),(1,0),(0,1)\}, a right triangle of area 1/21/2.

    Let LL be large and set

    QL={0,,L1}2.Q_L=\{0,\dots,L-1\}^2.

    Choose LL points p1,,pLp_1,\dots,p_L very far from QLQ_L and from each other, so that all translates pi+Bp_i+B are pairwise disjoint and disjoint from QL+BQ_L+B. Define

    A=QL{p1,,pL}.A=Q_L\cup\{p_1,\dots,p_L\}.

    Then

    A=L2+L.|A|=L^2+L.

    Also

    QL+BQL=2L,|Q_L+B|-|Q_L|=2L,

    and each isolated point contributes exactly 22 new points, so

    A+BA=2L+2L=4L4A1/2.|A+B|-|A|=2L+2L=4L\le 4|A|^{1/2}.

    For any finite SZ2S\subset\mathbb Z^2, if rr is the number of occupied rows and cc the number of occupied columns, then Src|S|\le rc, while S+BSS+B\setminus S contains at least max(r,c)\max(r,c) points. Hence the minimum possible value of S+BS|S+B|-|S| for S=n|S|=n is at least n\sqrt n. Thus AA is within a constant factor of the optimum.

    Now suppose constants N,VN,V existed such that every such AA could be covered by at most NN homothetic copies of C(B)C(B) with total area at most VAV|A|. Choose L>NL>N, and choose the pip_i pairwise separated by distance greater than 2VA2\sqrt{V|A|}. Any homothetic copy of C(B)C(B) with area at most VAV|A| has diameter at most 2VA2\sqrt{V|A|}, so it can contain at most one of the points pip_i. Hence NN copies cover at most N<LN<L of the isolated points, contradiction.

    Therefore no O(1)O(1)-copy, O(A)O(|A|)-volume exact covering statement can hold.

    Citation: Counterexample above. Source for notation: Barber, Erde, Keevash, Roberts, “Isoperimetric stability in lattices,” Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. 151 (2023), 5021–5029; arXiv:2007.14457, §4.

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      machine: correct

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      The counterexample attacks the exact concluding conjecture: sets with A+BA|A+B|-|A| within a constant factor of the minimum.

      For B={0,e1,e2}B=\{0,e_1,e_2\}, the set A=QL{p1,,pL}A=Q_L\cup\{p_1,\dots,p_L\} with the pip_i far apart has A=L2+L|A|=L^2+L and A+BA=4L=O(A1/2)|A+B|-|A|=4L=O(|A|^{1/2}). The row/column argument gives a valid lower bound S+BSS|S+B|-|S|\ge \sqrt{|S|}, so these AA are constant-factor near-minimizers.

      The covering contradiction is also sound: with at most NN homothetic triangles of total area VA\le V|A|, each triangle has bounded diameter O(A)O(\sqrt{|A|}), so sufficiently separated isolated points require more than NN copies. Thus the conjectured uniform O(1)O(1)-copy, O(A)O(|A|)-volume cover cannot hold.

      Novelty assessment

      TYPE1

      Classification rationale: The accepted resolution is a short elementary counterexample to a narrow concluding-remarks conjecture. It exploits the standard “dust” obstruction: add O(A1/2)O(|A|^{1/2}) far-apart isolated points to a near-optimal two-dimensional block. This preserves constant-factor isoperimetric optimality but makes any O(1)O(1)-piece, O(A)O(|A|)-volume cover impossible. Useful as a correction/remark, but not substantial enough for a standalone combinatorics paper.

      Literature check: I found no evidence that this exact counterexample or a stronger negative answer is already in the literature. The correct arXiv record is arXiv:2007.14457, not the unrelated arXiv:2009.11750 listed in input. Searches around the title, authors, “C(B)C(B) homothetic”, “covered by O(1)O(1) homothetic copies”, “Cayley digraph” and lattice isoperimetric stability did not reveal a later paper, note, forum post, or survey resolving this specific final conjecture. General related literature on isoperimetric stability does not appear to address this exact coarse covering claim with remote isolated components.

      Citation: Ben Barber, Joshua Erde, Peter Keevash, Alexander Roberts, “Isoperimetric stability in lattices,” Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. 151 (2023), 5021–5029; arXiv:2007.14457, §4.

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