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We believe the assertion of Theorem 1.6 is true even for all smaller values of nn, though we don't have a proof yet.

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  • On Vanishing Properties of Polynomials on Symmetric Sets of the Boolean Cube, in Positive Characteristic
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    Problem: Reconstructed conjecture: let KK be a field of characteristic p>0p>0. For E⊆[0,n]E\subseteq[0,n], write

    E‾={x∈{0,1}n:∣x∣∈E}.\underline E=\{x\in\{0,1\}^n: |x|\in E\}.

    Let Zcl⁡n,d(E)\operatorname{Zcl}_{n,d}(E) be the set of weights j∈[0,n]j\in[0,n] such that every polynomial over KK of degree ≤d\le d vanishing on E‾\underline E also vanishes on the whole jj-th layer. Let symcl⁡n,d(E)\operatorname{symcl}_{n,d}(E) be the analogous closure using only symmetric polynomials of degree ≤d\le d.

    Theorem 1.6 of Srinivasan--Venkitesh proves, for ℓ=⌈log⁡p(d+1)⌉\ell=\lceil\log_p(d+1)\rceil, that if n≥4pℓ−1n\ge 4p^\ell-1, then

    Zcl⁡n,d(E)=symcl⁡n,d(E)for all E⊆[d,n−d].\operatorname{Zcl}_{n,d}(E)=\operatorname{symcl}_{n,d}(E) \qquad\text{for all }E\subseteq[d,n-d].

    Remark 4.6 says the authors believe the same assertion holds for smaller nn. Thus the natural formal conjecture is the same equality with the hypothesis n≥4pℓ−1n\ge4p^\ell-1 removed.

    Result: The conjecture is true.

    It is enough to work over Fp\mathbb F_p, since all relevant evaluation matrices have entries in Fp\mathbb F_p, and their ranks are unchanged after extending scalars to any field of characteristic pp.

    Assume E⊆[d,n−d]E\subseteq[d,n-d]. If E=∅E=\varnothing, both closures are empty because the constant polynomial 11 is allowed. If d=0d=0, both closures are either empty or all of [0,n][0,n], according as EE is empty or nonempty. So assume d≥1d\ge1 and E≠∅E\ne\varnothing, whence d≤n/2d\le n/2.

    For s∈[0,n]s\in[0,n], define

    b0(s)=((s0),(s1),…,(sd))∈Fpd+1.b_0(s)=\bigl(\binom{s}{0},\binom{s}{1},\ldots,\binom{s}{d}\bigr)\in\mathbb F_p^{d+1}.

    A weight jj lies in symcl⁡n,d(E)\operatorname{symcl}_{n,d}(E) iff

    b0(j)∈span⁡Fp{b0(i):i∈E}.(1)b_0(j)\in \operatorname{span}_{\mathbb F_p}\{b_0(i):i\in E\}. \tag{1}

    We use Wilson’s diagonal form for inclusion matrices. In the range E⊆[d,n−d]E\subseteq[d,n-d], it implies the following standard criterion: for j≤n/2j\le n/2,

    j∈Zcl⁡n,d(E)j\in \operatorname{Zcl}_{n,d}(E)

    iff for every 0≤t≤min⁡(d,j)0\le t\le \min(d,j),

    bt(j):=((j−t0),(j−t1),…,(j−td−t))b_t(j):=\bigl(\binom{j-t}{0},\binom{j-t}{1},\ldots,\binom{j-t}{d-t}\bigr)

    lies in

    span⁡Fp{bt(i):i∈E}.(2)\operatorname{span}_{\mathbb F_p}\{b_t(i):i\in E\}. \tag{2}

    Now suppose j∈symcl⁡n,d(E)j\in\operatorname{symcl}_{n,d}(E). If j>n/2j>n/2, replace EE by n−En-E and jj by n−jn-j; both Z-closure and symmetric closure are preserved under the coordinate-complement map x↦1−xx\mapsto 1-x. Thus it suffices to handle j≤n/2j\le n/2.

    By (1), every Fp\mathbb F_p-linear combination of (Z0),…,(Zd)\binom Z0,\ldots,\binom Zd vanishing on EE also vanishes at jj. Fix t≤min⁡(d,j)t\le\min(d,j). If (2) failed, then some coefficients c0,…,cd−tc_0,\ldots,c_{d-t} would satisfy

    ∑u=0d−tcu(i−tu)=0(i∈E),\sum_{u=0}^{d-t}c_u\binom{i-t}{u}=0\quad(i\in E),

    but

    ∑u=0d−tcu(j−tu)≠0.\sum_{u=0}^{d-t}c_u\binom{j-t}{u}\ne0.

    The function

    Q(Z)=∑u=0d−tcu(Z−tu)Q(Z)=\sum_{u=0}^{d-t}c_u\binom{Z-t}{u}

    is an integer-valued polynomial of degree ≤d−t\le d-t, hence is an Fp\mathbb F_p-linear combination of (Z0),…,(Zd)\binom Z0,\ldots,\binom Zd. It vanishes on EE but not at jj, contradicting (1). Therefore (2) holds for every tt, so j∈Zcl⁡n,d(E)j\in\operatorname{Zcl}_{n,d}(E).

    Since always Zcl⁡n,d(E)⊆symcl⁡n,d(E)\operatorname{Zcl}_{n,d}(E)\subseteq\operatorname{symcl}_{n,d}(E), equality follows for all nn, with no lower bound on nn.

    Verification audit: the only removed hypothesis is n≥4pℓ−1n\ge4p^\ell-1; E⊆[d,n−d]E\subseteq[d,n-d], the degree bound, and positive characteristic are unchanged. Degenerate cases E=∅E=\varnothing and d=0d=0 are covered. The proof uses Wilson’s theorem only in its standard valid range r≤d≤i,n−ir\le d\le i,n-i for i∈Ei\in E, and reduces j>n/2j>n/2 by complement symmetry.

    Citation: Exact all-nn statement not found in the cited paper. Ingredient used: R. M. Wilson, “A diagonal form for the incidence matrices of tt-subsets vs. kk-subsets,” European J. Combin. 11 (1990), 609–615. Original problem source: Srinivasan--Venkitesh, arXiv:2111.05445, Remark 4.6.

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    model says: correctGPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1)

    scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1

    PASS

    The proof attacks the correct reconstructed statement: removing the lower bound n≥4pℓ−1n\ge 4p^\ell-1 from Theorem 1.6 while keeping E⊆[d,n−d]E\subseteq[d,n-d]. The key Wilson/Bier row-space criterion stated in the solution is the right one; once granted, the shift argument from b0b_0-span to every btb_t-span is valid, and complement symmetry handles j>n/2j>n/2. Degenerate cases and field-extension issues are also correctly covered. I did not find a published all-nn version of this equality.

    Novelty assessment

    TYPE1

    Classification rationale: The result appears genuinely new, but its standalone significance is minor. It removes an artificial lower bound on nn from a theorem in a recent arXiv paper, using a short argument from a standard Wilson/Bier row-space criterion plus the elementary fact that shifted binomial-polynomial evaluations are spanned by the ordinary binomial basis. This is valuable as a correction/strengthening to the original paper, but is likely better as an addendum or note to the authors than as an independent journal paper.

    Literature check: I found no published or preprint source proving the all-nn version. The original paper states the bounded-nn theorem and explicitly says in Remark 4.6 that the authors believe it for smaller nn but lack a proof. I checked the paper text, its Semantic Scholar/OpenAlex citation trail, and related arXiv literature. The citing/related items located include Venkitesh’s affine Hilbert-function paper, the 2023 Ghosh–Kayal–Nandi–Venkitesh hyperplane-cover paper, and Srinivasan’s robust Hegedűs lemma paper; none state this all-nn positive-characteristic equality. Searches of arXiv/Semantic Scholar/GitHub for the relevant terms (“finite-degree Z-closures”, “sym-cl”, “Z-cl”, “Remark 4.6”, etc.) did not reveal an existing resolution.

    Citation: Original problem source: S. Srinivasan and S. Venkitesh, “On Vanishing Properties of Polynomials on Symmetric Sets of the Boolean Cube, in Positive Characteristic,” arXiv:2111.05445, Remark 4.6. Standard ingredient: R. M. Wilson, “A diagonal form for the incidence matrices of tt-subsets vs. kk-subsets,” European J. Combin. 11 (1990), 609–615.

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