Palindromes in finite groups and the Explorer-Director game
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Perhaps an equally daring conjecture would be that L(G) = {d : d divides |G|}, in which case we would have f(G) = f^{*}(|G|).
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Candidate 2 of the open problems stated in "Palindromes in finite groups and the Explorer-Director game", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.
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Problem: For a finite group of odd order, a twisted subgroup is a subset with and for all . The paper defines
Literally, is already false because is on the right but itself is excluded on the left. The natural repaired conjecture is that is the set of proper divisors of . This repaired conjecture is also false.
Result: Let , and choose of order , e.g. a root of
Let
where acts on the additive group of by . Thus .
Write elements as , , , with
First note that in an odd-order group every twisted subgroup is closed under inverses: if , then the exponents with form a subset of containing and closed under ; since multiplication by is bijective, this subset is all of .
Let . Project to . The image is either trivial or all of .
If the image is trivial, then . Since is elementary abelian of order , is an -subspace, so is a power of .
Now suppose the image is all of . For , set
Each is nonempty. Closure under gives, for ,
so is an affine -subspace, say .
For , ,
Taking differences gives
Hence, for all ,
where is taken modulo . Therefore all fibers have the same dimension , and
The other difference relation gives
Taking , we get
Let . Since and ,
over , and this polynomial is irreducible over . Thus is a vector space over , so is even.
Hence any twisted subgroup of has size either a power of , or with . In particular, no twisted subgroup has order
But . Therefore even the repaired conjecture is false.
Citation: Conjecture and definitions: Dagur Tómas Ásgeirsson and Pat Devlin, “Palindromes in finite groups and the Explorer-Director game,” arXiv:1904.00467. The counterexample above is self-contained.
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machine: correctscope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification TYPE1
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The construction attacks the intended proper-divisor version of the conjecture. The fiber argument in is sound: any twisted subgroup either lies in the elementary abelian kernel, giving size a power of , or projects onto , where the affine fiber directions satisfy and , forcing even. Thus no twisted subgroup has size , although . This rigorously disproves the conjecture. A check of the paper and its listed citing literature did not reveal an existing stronger/similar resolution.
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TYPE1
Classification rationale: The counterexample appears genuinely new, but it is a very short, elementary finite-group construction disproving a speculative closing conjecture rather than a central or widely studied problem. On its own it is likely too narrow for a standard combinatorics journal paper, though it could be useful as an arXiv note or as part of a broader treatment of twisted subgroups/Explorer-Director games.
Literature check: I found no existing published or open-access resolution of this conjecture, nor a stronger known statement implying this counterexample. Searches around the exact paper title, “Explorer-Director game,” “Magnus-Derek game,” “proper twisted subgroup,” “L(G) twisted subgroup,” and the specific order-405/Frobenius-group construction did not reveal a prior counterexample. The arXiv record remains unrevised beyond 2019 and still lists the conjectural direction as open/speculative.
Citation: Dagur Tómas Ásgeirsson and Pat Devlin, “Palindromes in finite groups and the Explorer-Director game,” arXiv:1904.00467.
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