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Semigroups of Polyhedra with Prescribed Number of Lattice Points and the k-Frobenius Problem

Algebra · math.CO · math.RT · posed by Iskander Aliev, Jesús A. De Loera, Quentin Louveaux · open

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For any triple of positive integers a=(a1,a2,a3)a = (a_1, a_2, a_3) the sequence of numbers the sequence {gi(a)}i=0\{g_i(a)\}_{i=0}^{\infty} is monotonically increasing with ii, for i14i \le 14.

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Candidate 3 of the open problems stated in "Semigroups of Polyhedra with Prescribed Number of Lattice Points and the k-Frobenius Problem", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.

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    Problem: Reconstructed conjecture: for a positive integer triple a=(a1,a2,a3)a=(a_1,a_2,a_3), usually with gcd(a1,a2,a3)=1\gcd(a_1,a_2,a_3)=1, let

    Ra(n)=#{xZ03:a1x1+a2x2+a3x3=n}.R_a(n)=\#\{x\in\mathbb Z_{\ge0}^3:a_1x_1+a_2x_2+a_3x_3=n\}.

    Let

    gi(a)=max{n1:Ra(n)=i},g_i(a)=\max\{n\ge1:R_a(n)=i\},

    with the common convention gi(a)=0g_i(a)=0 if this set is empty. The conjecture says gi(a)g_i(a) is increasing in ii for 0i140\le i\le14. This is the nontrivial “exactly ii representations” interpretation; the “at most ii” interpretation would be monotone by inclusion and would not be a real conjecture.

    Result: The conjecture is false.

    Take

    a=(4,5,6).a=(4,5,6).

    This is a primitive triple, since gcd(4,5,6)=1\gcd(4,5,6)=1, and it is not redundant: none of 4,5,64,5,6 is a nonnegative integer combination of the other two.

    Let R(n)=R(4,5,6)(n)R(n)=R_{(4,5,6)}(n). A representation with x1>0x_1>0 gives one of n4n-4, while those with x1=0x_1=0 solve 5y+6z=n5y+6z=n. Thus

    R(n)=R(n4)+T(n),R(n)=R(n-4)+T(n),

    where T(n)=#{(y,z)Z02:5y+6z=n}T(n)=\#\{(y,z)\in\mathbb Z_{\ge0}^2:5y+6z=n\}.

    Using this recurrence gives, for n=4q+rn=4q+r, 0r<40\le r<4, 0q110\le q\le11:

    r\q012345678910110111234567911121011123456791120122345789111330012234578911\begin{array}{c|rrrrrrrrrrrr} r\backslash q&0&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&8&9&10&11\\ \hline 0&1&1&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&9&11&12\\ 1&0&1&1&1&2&3&4&5&6&7&9&11\\ 2&0&1&2&2&3&4&5&7&8&9&11&13\\ 3&0&0&1&2&2&3&4&5&7&8&9&11 \end{array}

    So no n47n\le47 has exactly 1010 representations, while R(43)=9R(43)=9. Also R(44),R(45),R(46),R(47)11R(44),R(45),R(46),R(47)\ge11. Since adding one copy of the generator 44 injects representations of nn into representations of n+4n+4, every n44n\ge44 has at least 1111 representations.

    Hence there is no positive integer with exactly 1010 representations:

    g10(4,5,6)=0g_{10}(4,5,6)=0

    under the standard empty-set convention, while

    g9(4,5,6)=43.g_9(4,5,6)=43.

    Thus g9>g10g_9>g_{10}, so the sequence is not even nondecreasing.

    If gig_i is left undefined when no such integer exists, then g10(4,5,6)g_{10}(4,5,6) is not a number, so the stated “sequence of numbers” does not exist.

    A natural repair would be to use Fi(a)=max{n:Ra(n)i}F_i(a)=\max\{n:R_a(n)\le i\}, which is monotone trivially by inclusion, or to add an explicit existence hypothesis for all gig_i. But the stated exact-gig_i conjecture is false.

    Citation: No external citation is needed; the counterexample is elementary.

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      machine: correct

      Recorded from GPT-5.5 xhigh (SMD judge 1) ·

      scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification KNOWN

      PASS

      The counterexample is mathematically valid for the conjecture as stated. For a=(4,5,6)a=(4,5,6), the recurrence

      R(n)=R(n4)+#{(y,z)0:5y+6z=n}R(n)=R(n-4)+\#\{(y,z)\ge0:5y+6z=n\}

      is correct, and the displayed table verifies that no n47n\le 47 has exactly 1010 representations while R(43)=9R(43)=9. Since adding a 44-generator injects representations of nn into those of n+4n+4, the counts for 44,45,46,4744,45,46,47 being at least 1111 imply every n44n\ge44 has at least 1111 representations. Thus g10(4,5,6)=0g_{10}(4,5,6)=0 under the standard convention, while g9(4,5,6)=43g_9(4,5,6)=43, contradicting monotonicity.

      Novelty assessment

      KNOWN

      Classification rationale: The accepted counterexample is not a publishably new resolution: the non-monotonic/gappy behavior of exact generalized Frobenius numbers was already known. Beck and Kifer constructed families where the exact-representation Frobenius numbers gsg_s have “unnatural jumps.” Specializing their result to three generators already gives a failure of monotonicity within small ss (e.g. around g3,g4,g5g_3,g_4,g_5), so it is a similar/stronger known refutation of the conjectured monotonicity for triples.

      Literature check: I checked the original arXiv record (correctly arXiv:1409.5259, not 1409.4693), arXiv searches for “k-Frobenius,” “Frobenius number exactly representations,” “gig_i Frobenius,” monotonicity-related queries, and exact-counterexample queries such as “(4,5,6) Frobenius.” The exact (4,5,6)(4,5,6) example did not appear, but Beck–Kifer 2011 predates the conjecture and already establishes the relevant phenomenon for exact gsg_s.

      Citation: Matthias Beck and Curtis Kifer, “An Extreme Family of Generalized Frobenius Numbers,” Integers 11 (2011), A24; arXiv:1005.2692.

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