STANLEY-WILF LIMITS FOR PATTERNS IN ROOTED LABELED FORESTS
Statement
For all nonempty sets S of patterns, the random variable is asymptotically normal. In particular, converges in distribution to a standard Gaussian as .
Furthermore, if S is uncovered, then , and converges in distribution to , where are independent Poisson random variables with .
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Candidate 12 of the open problems stated in "STANLEY-WILF LIMITS FOR PATTERNS IN ROOTED LABELED FORESTS", extracted for the Scalable Mathematical Discovery run.
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Problem: Reconstruct as the number of connected components (“trees”) in a uniformly random rooted labeled forest on that classically avoids every pattern in a nonempty set . A pattern instance is an ancestor-descendant chain whose labels have the same relative order as the pattern.
The conjecture asserts that for every nonempty , is asymptotically normal.
Result: The conjecture is false.
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This is a nonempty set of valid patterns. If a rooted labeled forest on has any edge, then for that parent-child pair , either
giving an instance of , or
giving an instance of . Hence an -avoiding forest has no edges at all.
Therefore the only -avoiding forest on is the edgeless forest with singleton rooted trees. Thus
deterministically, so
for every . Consequently cannot converge, after standardization, to a nondegenerate standard Gaussian.
This disproves the conjecture even if the displayed normalization in the paper is repaired from division by to division by . A minimal natural repair would need to exclude such degenerate cases, e.g. by requiring , but that repaired statement is not proved here.
Citation: No external citation is needed for the counterexample; it follows directly from the definitions in Ren, “Stanley-Wilf Limits for Patterns in Rooted Labeled Forests,” arXiv:2310.02499.
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The counterexample is valid. For , any edge gives a parent-child ancestor-descendant pair whose labels are either increasing or decreasing, hence an instance of or . Thus every -avoiding forest is edgeless, so the unique uniform avoider has deterministically and . This contradicts the claimed nondegenerate asymptotic normality for all nonempty .
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Classification rationale: The counterexample is valid but completely elementary: forbidding both length-2 patterns and forbids every edge, so the random forest is deterministically the edgeless forest and with variance . This exposes a missing nondegeneracy hypothesis in a recent conjecture, but it has essentially no technical content and would not support a standalone paper beyond perhaps a short corrigendum/remark.
Literature check: I found no prior source explicitly reporting this counterexample to Conjecture 4.11. I checked Ren’s paper text around Conjecture 4.11 and the surrounding discussion; it notes the empty-set exception but not the degeneracy. ArXiv searches for “Conjecture 4.11” with “rooted labeled forests,” “,” “rooted labeled forests” with “asymptotically normal,” and “forest-Wilf” with “asymptotically normal” gave no relevant later resolution; the broader arXiv search for “patterns in rooted labeled forests” returned only Ren’s two related papers. GitHub issue searches for the title, , and the conjecture also found no correction or discussion.
Citation: Michael Ren, “Stanley-Wilf Limits for Patterns in Rooted Labeled Forests,” arXiv:2310.02499, Conjecture 4.11. No separate prior citation for this counterexample was found.
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