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Unified approach to the generalized Turán problem and supersaturation

Analysis · math.CO · math.SP · posed by Dániel Gerbner, Zoltán Lóránt Nagy, Máté Vizer · open

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The case when kk is odd was posed as an open problem by Nikiforov [53].

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    Problem: Reconstructed statement: for every finite simple undirected graph GG, let wj(G)w_j(G) be the number of ordered walks of length jj, and let λ1(G)\lambda_1(G) be the adjacency spectral radius. Nikiforov proved

    wk+r(G)wk(G)≤λ1(G)r\frac{w_{k+r}(G)}{w_k(G)}\le \lambda_1(G)^r

    for even kk. The cited “odd kk” problem asks whether the same inequality holds for odd kk and all r≥1r\ge1. This reconstruction is supported by the surrounding sentence in the paper, which explicitly defines wkw_k as walks and mentions λ1\lambda_1.

    Result: The odd-kk extension is false.

    Let G=K1,sG=K_{1,s} with s≥2s\ge2. Then λ1(G)=s\lambda_1(G)=\sqrt{s}. The number of walks is

    w2a(G)=(s+1)sa,w2a+1(G)=2sa+1.w_{2a}(G)=(s+1)s^a,\qquad w_{2a+1}(G)=2s^{a+1}.

    Indeed, walks in a star alternate between the center and leaves.

    For any odd k=2a+1k=2a+1, take r=1r=1. Then

    wk+1(G)wk(G)=(s+1)sa+12sa+1=s+12>s=λ1(G),\frac{w_{k+1}(G)}{w_k(G)} = \frac{(s+1)s^{a+1}}{2s^{a+1}} = \frac{s+1}{2} > \sqrt{s} = \lambda_1(G),

    since (s−1)2>0(\sqrt{s}-1)^2>0 for s>1s>1. Thus

    wk+1(G)wk(G)≤λ1(G)\frac{w_{k+1}(G)}{w_k(G)}\le \lambda_1(G)

    fails for every odd kk.

    Citation: Source of the reconstructed problem: V. Nikiforov, “Walks and the spectral radius of graphs,” Linear Algebra and its Applications 418 (2006), 257–268. The counterexample above is self-contained.

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    scope Full solution as submitted; SMD novelty classification KNOWN

    PASS

    The reconstruction matches the paper’s surrounding context: it concerns extending Nikiforov’s inequality

    wk+r(G)/wk(G)≤λ1(G)rw_{k+r}(G)/w_k(G)\le \lambda_1(G)^r

    from even kk to odd kk. The star K1,sK_{1,s} is a valid counterexample: the walk counts and spectral radius are correct, and for odd k=2a+1k=2a+1, r=1r=1,

    wk+1wk=s+12>s=λ1\frac{w_{k+1}}{w_k}=\frac{s+1}{2}>\sqrt{s}=\lambda_1

    for s>1s>1. Thus the odd-kk extension is rigorously disproved. I found no prior literature source explicitly giving this counterexample or a stronger resolution.

    Novelty assessment

    KNOWN

    Classification rationale: The accepted resolution is not new as a resolution of Nikiforov’s walk-counting problem. A 2020 paper explicitly titled “Walk counting and Nikiforov’s problem” gives a negative answer by constructing infinite families of connected bipartite counterexamples. The star example may be a simple self-contained counterexample to a variant/indexing of the inequality, but the falsehood of the proposed extension was already known.

    Literature check: I checked the original Nikiforov paper/arXiv record and searched citing/related works for “walks,” “spectral radius,” “Nikiforov problem,” and the ratio ws+r/wsw_{s+r}/w_s. The decisive reference is Feng–Lu–Stevanović (2020), whose abstract states that Nikiforov asked whether the relevant walk-count inequality holds and that the authors “provide a negative answer” via infinite connected bipartite graph families. Their notation counts walks by number of vertices, so it differs by an index shift from the solution’s length convention, but it is the same/sufficiently stronger negative resolution.

    Citation: Lihua Feng, Lu Lu, Dragan Stevanović, “Walk counting and Nikiforov’s problem,” Open Journal of Discrete Applied Mathematics 3(1) (2020), 11–19. DOI: 10.30538/psrp-odam2020.0024.

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